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UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Smart timing from May - this will be devastating for Corbyn. Current polling: CON 43, LAB 25 [1] Conservatives won the 2015 Election polling at 34% [2]. [1] https://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9828 [2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/UK_opini...

Too bad polls haven't been accurate for a while now.

As someone who made money betting on a Trump victory - certain topics / polls. Calling Brexit / Trump voters racist leads to a certain % of the population not disclosing their vote, oversampling of Democrats was another issue in the US polls.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Actually this is just good business for the Tories, and I've long expected it. The opposition is in disarray under Corbyn, and our prime minister has never won an election. This is as easy a victory as Theresa May will ever be able to bank on, and legitimises her leadership in the eyes of a large section of the public. She can also claim (maybe rightly so) that she has the undisputed majority support of the public fo…

Vote Lib Dem. Seriously. I am a candidate in very north london, we're all organised for this possibility.

I agreed with the Lib Dems on about two issues: privacy and censorship. For these, I disagree with the Labour line. However I am also against capitalist exploitation, and that makes a stronger case for me than the previous two issues.

If the Lib Dems became a Democratic/Liberal Socialist party, I'd be happier.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Some people criticize May whatever she does. If she calls election, because she wants to destroy opposition or because the election will cause more political instability, and if she doesn't, because she is afraid of democracy or something. Honestly, this makes no sense at all.

Exactly. I really wouldn't want her job. Her job description is to fly the plane into the mountain and afterwards be cricified for the outcome. Tactically this is her best move.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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I think the UK will be fine, post Brexit, as the UK is a very important trading partner for The Netherlands, Denmark & Ireland. These countries don't want harsh punishments for the UK (as Brussels seems intent on) and they want little trade barriers: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/792782/EU-rebellion-Bloc...

You can't use the Express as a source, it's not a creditable newspaper and has it's own agenda here.

Yet the main article is from The Guardian...

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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The Labour Party establishment have tried to dethrone Corbyn before and failed. He's an odd case. He commands a lot of influence among Labour members and to some extent the unions (who have significant ties to and influence on the Labour Party here). This makes him more-or-less untouchable as party leader. However, he's loathed by most of the party's current MPs, who are politicians and know he's going to be a liabil…

I was a Corbyn supporter, on the basis that we'd had too many Labour leaders who went against the wishes of the members and supported Tory policy. Then on Brexit, he went against the wishes of the members and supported Tory policy. Needless to say I'm no longer a supporter. Of course, it's easy to forget that all the other leadership candidates and challengers would have done the same. I'd love to see the scenario in…

Corbyn is not to blame for this. When Harriet Harman was caretaker leader after Ed Miliband resigned, Labour MPs voted in favour of having the referendum on EU membership. They should therefore feel bound by its result.

The only party which voted against having the referendum, and who aren't similarly bound, were the SNP.

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In my fantasy of UK politics, the centre and centre-left parties would form an opposition coalition ahead of the poll, proposing some radical reforms like PR, as well as some socially progressive policies like reigning in the surveillance state, thoroughly reviewing the drug laws, reviewing basic income as an idea and instituting some sort of evidence-basis mandate for law-making. I realise this is a pipe-dream, howe…

Not with Brexit overshadowing everything.

Perhaps they could oppose that too...

Would be an interesting legal position, now article 50 has been notified.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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"Simple" explanation is this: - May isn't going to lose to Corbyn - May has a slim majority, meaning she has to negotiate with people within the Conservative Party who might not agree with her on the Brexit terms. - She'll likely get a larger majority, so it makes it easier to deal with the rebels. - For Corbyn, it's interesting. He might be facing another leadership challenge if polls keep looking crap. - He wants t…

From the Guardian: 30m ago 11:44 Corbyn confirms Labour will vote for early election Jeremy Corbyn has put out this statement about Theresa May’s announcement. I welcome the prime minister’s decision to give the British people the chance to vote for a government that will put the interests of the majority first. Labour will be offering the country an effective alternative to a government that has failed to rebuild th…

> Labour has set out policies that offer a clear and credible choice for the country

Has it?? Where exactly? I've not heard a thing from Labour for months

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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You can't use the Express as a source, it's not a creditable newspaper and has it's own agenda here.

Yet the main article is from The Guardian...

I'm not debating the fact that a general election has been called as the Guardian has reported.

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Labour Party establishment have tried to dethrone Corbyn before and failed. He's an odd case. He commands a lot of influence among Labour members and to some extent the unions (who have significant ties to and influence on the Labour Party here). This makes him more-or-less untouchable as party leader. However, he's loathed by most of the party's current MPs, who are politicians and know he's going to be a liabil…

I was a Corbyn supporter, on the basis that we'd had too many Labour leaders who went against the wishes of the members and supported Tory policy. Then on Brexit, he went against the wishes of the members and supported Tory policy. Needless to say I'm no longer a supporter. Of course, it's easy to forget that all the other leadership candidates and challengers would have done the same. I'd love to see the scenario in…

Now that Article 50 has been triggered, isn't Brexit a done deal but for the negotiating?

(I'm not in the UK, apologies if this is a common question.)

[edit] Thanks for the answers!

Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Democracy is about more than one party winning a popular vote.

This is the last chance the UK has to avoid fascism. I wish that was hyperbole. But I really don't think it is.

Leaving the EU is fascism? Can you substantiate that?
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