Eh, not surprised, you expect fair play from Apple?
Last week Apple asked me to remove my app from the App Store. Now I know why.
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#32Personally, I don't like the name anyway. I am not a face, and nor are my friends. That name is just a reminder of the hollowness of online communication.
What's next, bodytime? Will that be the currency of the future (I got actual bodytime with x)? Except bodytime is already used for the stupid demand of employers that their workers are physically present in the office.
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#33Eh, not surprised, you expect fair play from Apple?
This is in fact fair play. Do you dispute that the trademark was taken and that the app name did not infringe?
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That depends on what their app did. From what I can make out with Google cache, it was a timer app. The two trademarks Facetime Corp held (and which Apple has supposedly bought) orient around "computer software used for communicating over global computer networks using voice, text, fax, or e-mail." A timer app called Facetime doesn't on the face of it appear to violate either of these other Facetime trademarks but..…
Whether they own the store or not has nothing to do with it. It's a straightforward legal claim. They have sent the same kinds of notices to app developers for other trademark owners. It's especially straightforward because they have published their own app with that name, so it's not just a matter of over-zealous trademark protection.
As the gp said. A trademark dispute is not necessarily a straightforward legal at all. Buying the claim of one side and using your power to enforce an otherwise tenuous sounds like ... uh bullying.
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#35Eh, not surprised, you expect fair play from Apple?
This is in fact fair play. Do you dispute that the trademark was taken and that the app name did not infringe?
It appears that the app name did not infringe, yes. Apple's trademark is for communications software and his is for a timer program.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
That depends on what their app did. From what I can make out with Google cache, it was a timer app. The two trademarks Facetime Corp held (and which Apple has supposedly bought) orient around "computer software used for communicating over global computer networks using voice, text, fax, or e-mail." A timer app called Facetime doesn't on the face of it appear to violate either of these other Facetime trademarks but..…
They're both software. Its easily conceivable that a non-moron could search for one and mistake it for the other. This case seems like an actual violation whose enforcement would be much more reasonable than most other disputes that have made the news the last few years.
The only "not great" thing is that it is Apple that have introduced this as a problem, not this app developer. Which is a bit brutish.
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What does all this secrecy buy them? Nothing.
A cool brand name they probably thought long and hard about before adopting it. A brand that will have resonance with the general population at the cost of alienating some developers. This is what 'crossroads between liberal arts and technology' is about; changing the pecking order in the technology business: Apple first, normal people second, developers a distant third.
How does the Facetime brand alienate developers exactly?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does all this secrecy buy them? Nothing.
A cool brand name they probably thought long and hard about before adopting it. A brand that will have resonance with the general population at the cost of alienating some developers. This is what 'crossroads between liberal arts and technology' is about; changing the pecking order in the technology business: Apple first, normal people second, developers a distant third.
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#39Personally, I don't like the name anyway. I am not a face, and nor are my friends. That name is just a reminder of the hollowness of online communication. What's next, bodytime? Will that be the currency of the future (I got actual bodytime with x)? Except bodytime is already used for the stupid demand of employers that their workers are physically present in the office.
Facetime is a widely adopted contraction of Face to Face time; which is in itself a widely accepted concept in the digital age (I find it mildly ironic that it has been adopted for this form of communication as well - because it defies the original meaning of the word :))
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#40User bcwood posted this in a neutral, matter of fact, way. Then I wonder why almost all the subsequent comments are so argumentative and biased. Chill, guys. Is being polite and cool not the thing to be on Internet?
Ya this bothers me too. Though I'm guilty of it on occasion. I think it's the same reason that the famous "Someone is wrong on the internet" xkcd comic is so funny... [1] People have no etiquette and in many cases it's easier to bash and be argumentative on the internet because it's so impersonal. I can think of a number of people that post often here where I skim past their posts because they have built a bad reputation with me. I think the contrapositive also applies, there are some people that post enjoyable comments (even when I don't agree with what they are saying) and I make a point to read those. There was some discussion about a feature to make it easier to find people you find interesting... like maintain a list or something. But I don't think it's made it to the official features request page.