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How many jobs really require college?

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Re: How many jobs really require college?

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post #7

I think the author of this post is making the same mistake that a lot of other people (particularly smart folks) make whenever they are thinking about the ills of modern education system and what can be done to improve it. Like Peter Thiel and others, I don't think they understand how and why students are failing in classrooms today. Take for example the author's suggestions on how school systems can be improved: Cre…

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Re: How many jobs really require college?

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My actions are commensurate with my words. I don't ask that he be censored - I ask that his status as an intellectual hack be considered, and that we recognize that his writings on education are informed by his much more onerous positions. We don't debate round-earth denialists, since we know that their only motive in debate is to maximize their audience and legitimacy. It doesn't matter whether they're actually talk…

Heh, the whole "you care more about this than I do" defense. Glad were back in third grade. I feel so young. Seriously your point is essentially elitism right? You can see that cant you? The only people worth hearing are the ones with the "right" views. Weirdly as an adult, I can recognize that the author has some interesting views on education while also having some (alleged) viewpoints about women I dont share.

I don't think name-calling is making your argument any more persuasive.

Re: How many jobs really require college?

#183
post #75

The premise of this post is that the author has performed an analysis of the educational requirements for jobs and can extrapolate from it. But this author thinks that only a grade school education and not more than 6 months of training is required to be a cook --- a profession people go to post-secondary school for --- and that some college study is required to be a programmer. How seriously should I take their conc…

The arrogance of the opening of this piece is amazing. Essentially: "I know nothing about analyzing occupations, I do not work in or hire for any of these occupations, now I will classify these occupations based on my subjective analysis of how much education one really needs to do these jobs."

Unfortunately, if you read any of the other posts on this blog, you'll see this is kind of par for his course.

Re: How many jobs really require college?

#185
post #2

If your job doesn't require college, then pretty soon it won't require a human either. The more brain required the longer you have until a robot or computer can do it better.

All the plumbers, electricians, welders, drivers & construction & assembly folks who build the infrastructure you rely on will appreciate.

Re: How many jobs really require college?

#186
Stopped reading at:

"College actually teaching people how to think is increasingly rare. Only a small percentage of students actually read the classics, get exposed to a variety of ideas, or are actually challenged to think in section or seminar. And more and more, college has become an environment hostile to free inquiry. Even fifteen years ago at an Ivy League school I did not like to say things too far outside the zeitgeist in section, because it just wasn’t worth the risk of making someone in class angry. And I hear the problem is even worse now."

This guy is one of classic privileged techie types who's sad he can't shout his glorious racist sexist libertarian views from the rooftops without being challenged.

Re: How many jobs really require college?

#188

Stopped reading at: "College actually teaching people how to think is increasingly rare. Only a small percentage of students actually read the classics, get exposed to a variety of ideas, or are actually challenged to think in section or seminar. And more and more, college has become an environment hostile to free inquiry. Even fifteen years ago at an Ivy League school I did not like to say things too far outside the…

That's a big claim you're making with no evidence. In fact that kind of assumption about someone that thinks differently is what the author was probably referring to.

Re: How many jobs really require college?

#189

Stopped reading at: "College actually teaching people how to think is increasingly rare. Only a small percentage of students actually read the classics, get exposed to a variety of ideas, or are actually challenged to think in section or seminar. And more and more, college has become an environment hostile to free inquiry. Even fifteen years ago at an Ivy League school I did not like to say things too far outside the…

That's a big claim you're making with no evidence. In fact that kind of assumption about someone that thinks differently is what the author was probably referring to.

Just check his other posts:

Racist: https://devinhelton.com/hate-group-history Sexist: https://devinhelton.com/principles-of-formalism Libertarian nutjob: all of them

Re: How many jobs really require college?

#190

Stopped reading at: "College actually teaching people how to think is increasingly rare. Only a small percentage of students actually read the classics, get exposed to a variety of ideas, or are actually challenged to think in section or seminar. And more and more, college has become an environment hostile to free inquiry. Even fifteen years ago at an Ivy League school I did not like to say things too far outside the…

glorious racist sexist libertarian views

How on Earth are you divining racism and sexism out of this article???

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