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Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by mtanski »

baq wrote: post #32
frik wrote: post #16

VCRUNTIME140.dll required Why are open source projects built with Visual Studio these days? Especially as binaries built with VS2015 (release and up to service pack 2) are known to phone home "by accident". There are the GNU, Mingw, Msys, LLVM options on Windows - completely open source. Offer binary builds with at least one of these compilers on Windows platform.

like it or not, VC is a very good compiler and a windows standard, and since not exactly recently, available for free for personal use. you don't have to use visual studio in order to compile software with cl.

It is a windows standard but I wouldn't call it a good compiler. It has traditionally has lacked in the standards department and compiler & code gen bugs have not been fixed with any kind of urgency.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by lastontheboat »

1wd wrote: post #45

Nice. I wondered, for what kind of problems should I bother to file issues? The page says: > so please file issues about anything that doesn’t work as expected! Wouldn't that be quite a lot of obvious stuff? I just opened one web page and see over ten rendering errors. Even the text edit control of the built-in search-bar doesn't work as expected (text selection doesn't work, both with mouse and keyboard). There seem…

We don't mind stuff that seems obvious because it may not be to others. Keyboard selection in the URL bar is supposed to work, for example.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by dingaling »

IshKebab wrote: post #36
po1nter wrote: post #21

Doesn't even launch. The window appears very briefly then closes immediately. If any of the maintainers are here let me know how can I help you with this. I'm on Windows 10 version 1703 (OS Build 15063.13) x64

Same here. There don't seem to be any command line options to help debug it either. Even `servo --help` didn't print anything.

Might be an OpenGL versioning issue, sounds like the symptoms I've seen when trying to run on laptops with older Intel integrated graphics.

On Linux it's theoretically possible to force Servo into software-rendering mode, though when I've tried that it has done nothing even after 20 minutes.

However it's not yet available on other platforms:

https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/15259

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by davidgerard »

Manishearth wrote: post #24
davidgerard wrote: post #23

How well should it be expected to work under Wine?

I suspect it won't, but you can try (please file bugs if it doesn't)! We have had Linux nightlies for ages now though.

Oh, that would count as a valid bug? I shall :-)

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by ilitirit »

ubershmekel wrote: post #5

I just tried it out. It froze when looking at a reddit comments page, it froze when I tried to use the URL bar. Pretty exciting nonetheless.

The URL bar does seem buggy and incomplete. I don't think it even supports copy/paste yet. It also won't let me type "https://..."

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by zellyn »

Just so you Servo folks know, we appreciate the plan of shipping components incrementally in Firefox, and realize the necessity, and how big a project building a whole browser is…

…and yet…

…I think you know we're all waiting for Servo itself to be usable as our main browser :-) Good luck!

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by johnfn »

fjh wrote: post #37
newsat13 wrote: post #2

I loved reading https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/12125 . It is a great example of open source persistence despite it not being a priority. Things move forward at snail pace and stalls multiple times. Just when all hope seems lost, they manage to ship it ! This is the case with most opensource projects - things take their own sweet time but they eventually somehow manage. On a side note, I noted that https://gith…

> every 5th german is named lars That is completely untrue. Lars isn't exactly a rare name in Germany, but I'd be surprised if it was even one of the 20 most common first names. It's definitely nowhere near 1/5th of the population.

GP was making a joke. :)

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by [deleted] »

fjh wrote: post #37
newsat13 wrote: post #2

I loved reading https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/12125 . It is a great example of open source persistence despite it not being a priority. Things move forward at snail pace and stalls multiple times. Just when all hope seems lost, they manage to ship it ! This is the case with most opensource projects - things take their own sweet time but they eventually somehow manage. On a side note, I noted that https://gith…

> every 5th german is named lars That is completely untrue. Lars isn't exactly a rare name in Germany, but I'd be surprised if it was even one of the 20 most common first names. It's definitely nowhere near 1/5th of the population.

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Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by tambourine_man »

We're all exited about Servo (and Rust) and I'm really looking forward to using it.

But what makes software that's used everyday feel great are the small details.

I can't use Chrome (for consumption, though I use it for development) because of the way it renders text and a few other UI annoyances.

A browser is a lot of things, but to me, it's first and foremost a reading platform. So please, do whatever you can to use the OS's native text rendering.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by phkahler »

tambourine_man wrote: post #59

We're all exited about Servo (and Rust) and I'm really looking forward to using it. But what makes software that's used everyday feel great are the small details. I can't use Chrome (for consumption, though I use it for development) because of the way it renders text and a few other UI annoyances. A browser is a lot of things, but to me, it's first and foremost a reading platform. So please, do whatever you can to us…

>> So please, do whatever you can to use the OS's native text rendering.

That seems odd and would mean different quality on different platforms. Yes, if native is better than built-in then I agree. But what if their GL based text rendering is just fine, shouldn't they use it everywhere because it's portable?

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