Servo nightly builds on Windows now available • Hacker News Board

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by po1nter » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 7:43 AM UTC

Doesn't even launch. The window appears very briefly then closes immediately. If any of the maintainers are here let me know how can I help you with this. I'm on Windows 10 version 1703 (OS Build 15063.13) x64

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by mundanevoice » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 7:52 AM UTC

digitalshankar wrote: post #9

tn135 wrote: post #3

This project has moved real slowly but keep remembering how often Eich referred to this as the most important aspect of Mozilla.

Talking is easy, Coding is Hard. Servo is still the most important aspect of Mozilla in terms of Security and Speed, I really think after the full development it will definitely beat the Google Chrome.

Haha. As if there is no development going on in V8. Rewriting anything doesn't mean it will beat it's competitors.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by davidgerard » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 7:53 AM UTC

How well should it be expected to work under Wine?

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by Manishearth » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 7:54 AM UTC

davidgerard wrote: post #23

How well should it be expected to work under Wine?

I suspect it won't, but you can try (please file bugs if it doesn't)!

We have had Linux nightlies for ages now though.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by davidgerard » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 7:57 AM UTC

mundanevoice wrote: post #22

digitalshankar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking is easy, Coding is Hard. Servo is still the most important aspect of Mozilla in terms of Security and Speed, I really think after the full development it will definitely beat the Google Chrome.

Haha. As if there is no development going on in V8. Rewriting anything doesn't mean it will beat it's competitors.

It's doing a completely different thing to why KHTML/WebKit/Blink is good.

I would be unsurprised if Google were quietly doing something similar, of course, particularly with Mozilla having been quite open about this project for several years.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by egnehots » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 8:06 AM UTC

frik wrote: post #16

VCRUNTIME140.dll required Why are open source projects built with Visual Studio these days? Especially as binaries built with VS2015 (release and up to service pack 2) are known to phone home "by accident". There are the GNU, Mingw, Msys, LLVM options on Windows - completely open source. Offer binary builds with at least one of these compilers on Windows platform.

they don't allow the use of the latest api. ex: listening to dpi changes.

but what they could do is to link statically with the runtime.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by wodenokoto » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 8:15 AM UTC

newsat13 wrote: post #2

I loved reading https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/12125 . It is a great example of open source persistence despite it not being a priority. Things move forward at snail pace and stalls multiple times. Just when all hope seems lost, they manage to ship it ! This is the case with most opensource projects - things take their own sweet time but they eventually somehow manage. On a side note, I noted that https://gith…

His "personal" section on Lars.com seems to indicate very strongly that he is American.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by chuckdries » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 8:25 AM UTC

I can't wait for people to start using this instead of chrome/electron to make desktop web apps. As much as I understand the philosophical (and at this point pragmatic) arguments against electron, there's something to be said about making deadlines and using technology your developers know well.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by krzat » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 8:29 AM UTC

buster wrote: post #4

After seeing a youtube demo[[1] of how the aggressive parallelisation that is done in Servo (safely possible by using Rust) speeds up this browser, i'm really excited for Servo! Also, i think this will give us a great base for all kinds of browser embedding what is not based on ancient webkit-gtk. There is another nice presentation on Rust and Servo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q9vIMXSTzc [1]: https://youtu.be/U…

I'm hoping for Servo-based alternative to Electron. If it could deliver some performance/memory improvements it would be good advertisement for the project, and also for Rust.

Not sure if that's realistic, Servo app ran on macOS takes about 200MB of RAM usage.

Re: Servo nightly builds on Windows now available

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 13, 2017, 8:31 AM UTC

ajdlinux wrote: post #18

frik wrote: post #16

VCRUNTIME140.dll required Why are open source projects built with Visual Studio these days? Especially as binaries built with VS2015 (release and up to service pack 2) are known to phone home "by accident". There are the GNU, Mingw, Msys, LLVM options on Windows - completely open source. Offer binary builds with at least one of these compilers on Windows platform.

Servo is written primarily in Rust... I'm not a Windows developer by any means, but my understanding was that the major different compilers on Windows aren't ABI compatible. Also it's entirely possible Servo links against an external library that is built with VS.

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