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yeah, if someone is looking up to privy like this I would recommend moving to China or North Korea where they can try to release their another inspirited product
As a China-approved messenger application would anyone trust this as their primary mode of communication? This is not meant to be snarky or biased. Considering the control China has on citizen communication (eg the great firewall), what guarantee does anyone using the app have that all data isn't being fed through the Chinese version of the NSA? Also: how much of the growth can be attributed to less competition in th…
I wonder how many humans are trawling WeChat for "bad" messages. In addition to the bots.
TLDR Milestones - leave totalitarian government block all your competitors, be complacent and provide all your data to government, censor what people post on their public wall and in private messages as well yeah, if someone is looking up to privy like this I would recommend moving to China or North Korea where they can try to release their another inspirited product
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"WeChat defies the popular belief that growth is all about user growth. Instead they think about growth as increasing value (e.g., the number of tasks WeChat can do in the daily lives of users). Unlike other social products, WeChat does not only measure growth by number of users or messages sent. Instead they also focus on measuring how deeply is the product engaged in every aspect of daily life (e.g., the number of…
only people amazed by wechat are those who never lived in China
next time - Democratic party would like to repeat success of CCP, they get 100% of votes! same goes for railways, all companies in liberalized European market are crying tears and wanna go learn from Chinese state monopoly railways how to win the market
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I wonder how many humans are trawling WeChat for "bad" messages. In addition to the bots.
On WeChat it is really hard to see "bots". Tencent discourage them to do so. There is no supported way for connected apps to send messages automatically -- End users' confirmations are mandatory. So you'll see a more organic feeds.
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In short, there is no guarantee. Any message could be deleted at any time for no reason.
How often do messages get deleted?
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Isn't there inherent risk in centralizing / relying on one app for so many activities? There are already many in the West that try to avoid relying on everything Facebook or Google due to privacy/security concerns. I'm surprised that Chinese are willing to put all their eggs in WeChat's basket, given their belief that American apps spy on their users.
That's exactly what makes the problem so interesting. The user experience of WeChat is clearly great, but that level of centralization really wouldn't fly over here.
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There is ridiculous amount of competition an innovation in the Chinese app market. Every time I visit China, I'm surprised by something new the folks can do with mobile. That innovation is starting to spill into India with Chinese company investments. A year ago, mobile payments in small shops and businesses were ubiquitous only in China, now they're proliferating in Indian cities too. The Western markets are quite…
Good point. I said app market, but I specifically meant messaging app market. Still a good point, just because they don't have Signal or Facebook (not that I'd trust it) doesn't mean they don't have strong competition in their own field of approved apps.
Can something like WeChat work in the West? This is basically like an OS inside an app, you can book taxis, movie tickets, play games, send money etc. Having all the functionality integrated makes life easier, but comes at the cost of privacy : one company knows about your entire life.
you can do pretty much all user car scenarios of what by opening google.com and gmail let's say (and i am saying this as someone who doesn't like Google ecosystem)
the thing is meant if things which wechat does are pain in the ass to do in China, not so much in West, so there is no need for us to integrate it, for instance card payments are widespread in West, not do much in China so they came with online payments with QR codes, same goes for paying utilities, just open internet banking of your Bank and pay, it will be probably faster than paying within wechat
i am telling you this as someone who lived in China for years and used all these services
heck even within China i was pretty much using only for chatting, wall and small money transfers
for sure not for buying plane tickets, Cinema tickets, paying utilities, etc., even for most of those there are cheaper options than their promoted partner, but yeah if you are dumb or lazy and dunno how to use internet them i can see how is wechat appealling
> Tencent was already one of China’s top internet companies in 2010, and the biggest social company even before WeChat was launched. > At the time, Tencent’s products had ~650M monthly active Instant Messenger accounts. Lesson 1: Start with 650m active users
No. WeChat started from scratch. None of the QQ users were ported to WeChat on day 1. You had to create a different account based on your mobile phone number just like any other mobile apps. You can, of course, use QQ credentials to login AFTER you created your WeChat account but you still have to create a WeChat account first and then link it to QQ. None of 650MM users were automatically created initially AFAIK. It…