How I wish that Canonical would have chosen MATE instead, Wimpy is already working for them.
MATE is a dead end if you want a modern, Wayland-based desktop.
Where does the Ubuntu Linux desktop go from here?
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#72kde is really very good, maybe because i am used to it, i dont see what it is missing, but i think even if it is missing something, it is probably minor as Linus Torvalds said in a video on youtube, what linux on the desktop need is to come preinstalled by the major pc vendor ... ubuntu need more deals with big vendors that is all
KDE and Gnome are both really good nowadays, but Ubuntu is a buggy piece of shit. I've helped friends install it a couple of times recent years, and seen various desktop program crashes every time . It wasn't like this back in the Gnome2 days. What we really need is Red Hat to start selling Fedora computers. And KDE Neon to ship laptops based on Debian stable. And obviously at least one big retailer to have them in a…
Same on servers. So many bugs - very small bugs mostly, but at once it gets annoying.
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KDE and Gnome are both really good nowadays, but Ubuntu is a buggy piece of shit. I've helped friends install it a couple of times recent years, and seen various desktop program crashes every time . It wasn't like this back in the Gnome2 days. What we really need is Red Hat to start selling Fedora computers. And KDE Neon to ship laptops based on Debian stable. And obviously at least one big retailer to have them in a…
A Fedora "leap" release, same as with OpenSUSE Leap, with a 3 year support cycle would be the ultimate system for me. I've been using Fedora for the last 7-8 years, but I have to upgrade every 13-14 months or so. And CentOS is not suited for a modern development/workstation environment.
I like it. Fedora upgrades are mostly painless and 3 year support cycles means more outdated software.
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The degree of polish that Visual Studio has just isn't available anywhere else. I like Windows more than before but people saying VS is fantastic are starting to annoy me. My VS crashed 3 times today (!). This comes on top of almost not having any refactoring support unless you buy ReSharper. I was really excited to get to try .Net three months ago. Now I'm really looking forward to go back to Java and Netbeans (even…
ReSharper? I typically run lightweight in terms of extensions and I've heard woes from others that don't.
But without ReSharper, Visual Studio (at least the community edition) can't refactor almost anything.
Re: Where does the Ubuntu Linux desktop go from here?
#75Just give a Linux desktop which is a smooth as macOS.
Like https://elementary.io/ ?
Unfortunately I'm just about to give up on elementary because of its bugginess. In my experience, running on well-supported hardware, it has frequent long pauses booting up, serious problems with suspend, failures to install with the new appcenter, and a few other small issues.
I support the theory of elementary (UI/designer led, unified HIGs, encouraging payment for development of the OS and the general ecosystem, and the emphasis on polished, hassle-free computing) but in practice it's just not there. They need to sort out bugs before taking on new features/designs.
I'm actually just considering what distribution to recommend to an inexperienced user. I would recommend elementary in a heartbeat if serious bugs were fixed within weeks, instead they go on for years.
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#76Just give a Linux desktop which is a smooth as macOS.
Juat remember that a lot of us actually really don't like using MacOSX.
I respect that others like it, -would even vote argue for coworkers to get a Mac even if it is slightly more expensive than my machine if thats what they are used to and like, - but passing it around as a benchmark for a good desktop gets a bit tiring.
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Like https://elementary.io/ ?
Unfortunately I'm just about to give up on elementary because of its bugginess. In my experience, running on well-supported hardware, it has frequent long pauses booting up, serious problems with suspend, failures to install with the new appcenter, and a few other small issues. I support the theory of elementary (UI/designer led, unified HIGs, encouraging payment for development of the OS and the general ecosystem, a…
A while since I have tried latest elementary now (I'm on KDE Neon now) but it used to be really good.
Has it become worse over the two last years?
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Linux already is running on the majority of mobile phones. :) That said, the UI has never been what's holding back Ubuntu on the phone.
What was the issue? Lack of apps? Marketing?
An Ubuntu phone solves the problem of making the top layer of the device open source. That's not a problem most iOS or Android users want solved.
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Remember the famous video Linus did where he just flipped a middle finger to nvidia because nvidia flipped a middle finger to the entire Linux community? Yeah, the advice is always "don't use nvidia with Linux".
2 things. 1: As a consumer IDGAF. 2: sure as long as we're not saying "your problem is because of a discreet GPU, switch to integrated, so much better!". Also, You want to lay down all the graphics options when Linus did that and _not_ pick Nvidia? Cool, go play zork. I understand what the situation was, but don't deny who was actually delivering on graphics performance either. Today however, it's genuinely refreshin…
But as a consumer, you _do_ give a fuck!
Making the wrong consumer choice here matters, because it can take you from a good, functioning PC to one that works far less effectively.
You're right in that you shouldn't have to give a fuck, that they should all - in support terms - be drop in replacements allowing you to balance up cost vs. performance, but the Linux team have tried awfully hard to make it that way without being able to reach a compromise with GPU producers.
In the meantime, Linux gives you a choice of external GPUs at varying levels of freedom and support. That's more than nvidia gives you.
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Remember the famous video Linus did where he just flipped a middle finger to nvidia because nvidia flipped a middle finger to the entire Linux community? Yeah, the advice is always "don't use nvidia with Linux".
2 things. 1: As a consumer IDGAF. 2: sure as long as we're not saying "your problem is because of a discreet GPU, switch to integrated, so much better!". Also, You want to lay down all the graphics options when Linus did that and _not_ pick Nvidia? Cool, go play zork. I understand what the situation was, but don't deny who was actually delivering on graphics performance either. Today however, it's genuinely refreshin…
Nvidia may have had the more powerful video cards, but at least AMD's video cards had functioning drivers for Linux. If you bought an Nvidia card to use on Linux back then, you were paying more for a worse card.