Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's also TheLounge and ircanywhere which try to be FOSS IRCCloud
Eh, no, if you want to get a FLOSS product comparable to IRCCloud, Quassel + Quassel-Webserver are more appropriate comparisons. TheLounge and ircanywhere are missing a lot in comparison.
Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
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Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
#132Good points but the bigger problem for me is the lack of an archive. You only have the last 10k (?) messages and that includes public and private messages. If you have a mildly active project, messages may only be available for a month and you lose the history of the project. That makes it an awful support option too.
Just a note: if you go from free to paid, you can recover those lost messages. They're never actually deleted, you just can't view messages after the 10k limit in the free version.
Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've started counting the minutes that I use in a day just logging in to things with our SSO, because it has started to actually add up, haha. It has gotten silly. If you need to log in more than once, can you really call it SSO? =)
If it's anything like my experience, the trip from clicking on the button to open the app and wait for the myriad of redirects, before clicking through to the page you actually want to monitor is non-trivial (and sometimes doesn't occur if the tab isn't in the foreground). I don't have that many open, and it still takes me around 5 minutes every day to open them back up.
Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
So get a better IRC client? Really not hard to do things like syntax formatting and auto link follow (GUI versions of IRCII had plugins for this in the late 90s, so it's not like it's even a novel idea).
IRC as a protocol is very outdated. If I log in at home and forgot out log out at work, I need another username. IRCv3 has a lot of enhancements that should move IRC out of the 1990s as far as a communication protocol, but there's not a whole lot of movement on it. I think FreeNode has some v3 support. We don't have a lot of developers dedicating time to this. I'd love to myself, because it's something the OSS commun…
That’s as wrong as you can get.
Networks with support, ranked by amount of supported features, are: InspIRCd Testnet, EsperNet, IRCCloud Teams, Snoonet, Rizon, IRCHighWay, freenode: http://ircv3.net/support/networks.html
Clients with support, ranked alphabetically, are:
Desktop: AdilIRC, BitchX, ChatZilla, Colloquy, Conspire, Hexchat, IceChat, Instantbird, Irssi, Konversation, KVIrc, LimeChat, mIRC, Mozilla Thunderbird, Quassel, Textual, WeeChat.
Web: IRCCLoud, Iris, Kiwi IRC, The Lounge, Mibbit, Quassel-Webserver
Mobile: AndChat, IRC for Android, AndroIRC, Colloquy, IRC7, IRCCloud, LimeChat, Palaver, Quasseldroid, YAAIC
Bouncers: Quassel, ZNC
Bots: Limnoria, Sopel, Moon Moon
http://ircv3.net/software/clients.html
And libraries are: cinch, Communi, irc-framework, Kitteh IRC Client Library, Net::Async::IRC, pydle, Rust irc, Warren, zIRC
That’s quite a whole lot of movement. That’s every project related to IRC
Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, no, if you want to get a FLOSS product comparable to IRCCloud, Quassel + Quassel-Webserver are more appropriate comparisons. TheLounge and ircanywhere are missing a lot in comparison.
What is Lounge missing compared to IRCCloud?
And other projects, including the GPL project Quassel, do have mobile clients (although Quasseldroid, which I maintain, isn’t exactly the best client in the world).
Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
#137It's frustrating that the choice seems to be between modern closed tools like Slack and Hangouts and antiquated open tools like IRC and mailing lists.
Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
#138Does Slack's terms of use forbidden creating an off platform archive? If not, given that searchable archives are one of the ways Slack makes money, makes me wonder why there's not an open source way to pull the chats and archive them in a way that's cheaper and independent of Slack.
forbid creating an off platform archive I'm not sure that's a substantively enforceable idea. Just try and stop me?
Probably they don't care enough to enforce, but surely you see it's part of the problem that they could?
Re: Why Slack is inappropriate for open source communications
#139Tangentially, I don't get how developers on the one hand strive for private offices and no (physical) interruptions, but on the other want to communicate through chat channels. Maybe these are different people altogether, and I'm just getting the wrong impression. But personally I prefer a little personal interaction over a long chat.