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3D support for X11 guests

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Re: 3D support for X11 guests

#41

I tried running Arch Linux on both VirtualBox and VMware Player on my Windows machine at work and Compton's performance is terrible. It's strange because it runs so well on VMware Fusion on my MacBook. Can someone recommend a better way to virtualize Linux desktop with composition in Windows?

Use VMWare workstation?

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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post #9

Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox, so is the dilemma whether to kill the project or not? (This is a serious question--what can possibly be more important to average virtualbox users than having a working desktop environment? Virtualbox has always occupied the desktop virtualization niche, so I'm trying to figure out what has changed...)

Both XFCE and Gnome 2 runs perfectly fine in Virtualbox.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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post #9

Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox, so is the dilemma whether to kill the project or not? (This is a serious question--what can possibly be more important to average virtualbox users than having a working desktop environment? Virtualbox has always occupied the desktop virtualization niche, so I'm trying to figure out what has changed...)

Both XFCE and Gnome 2 runs perfectly fine in Virtualbox.

Likely everything except GNOME 3.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

#44
In some ways, many Linux beginners will choose to use VirtualBox to learn knowledge. If there is no good user experience with graphics hardware acceleration, we may lose many of the open source community supporters.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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post #36

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Vagrant. Many of us still have and use Vagrant.

vagrant is completely modular though... i use vagrant with libvirt/qemu at work for nested VMs

How do you set up a two-way synced directory in Vagrant without virtualbox?

IME, you can't.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I do love KVM, it takes a lot more to get running properly than installing Virtualbox and Vagrant and being up and running with a whole ecosystem of every type of prebuilt box you could imagine.

Yep, the last time I tried to get a KVM machine going I had to hack XML files to get the correct SCSI controller just so I could mount an ISO. It's 3 clicks in VirtualBox.

That's not KVM that's libvirt which uses the XML files. KVM can be configured entirely from command line parameters.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

#47

I tried running Arch Linux on both VirtualBox and VMware Player on my Windows machine at work and Compton's performance is terrible. It's strange because it runs so well on VMware Fusion on my MacBook. Can someone recommend a better way to virtualize Linux desktop with composition in Windows?

Use VMWare workstation?

Nah, VMware Player and VMware Workstation use the exact same engine.

If you are having performance problems with VMware Player and are using either AVG of Avast antivirus then the problem might be the antivirus. See also [0]

[0] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/553759

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

vagrant is completely modular though... i use vagrant with libvirt/qemu at work for nested VMs

How do you set up a two-way synced directory in Vagrant without virtualbox? IME, you can't.

"can't" is a strong word.

why can't you do it in the user space within those VM's, communicating over a network adapter? If you don't care about putting on a raincoat, going outside to the Internet, and launching it up into the cloud, you can just install dropbox and get a sync'd directory without additional work. Obviously this is extra unnecessary overhead, two times, but for your use case you may not care.

you can alternatively roll your own solution though it might take you an hour or two. think about rsync over a local network adapter.

I realize these are hackish solutions but if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.

on the plus side you will control that traffic. having directory syncing that breaks the VM abstraction opens leaks due to potential oversights in how it's coded.

if I were in your predicament I would work around it.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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post #9

Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox, so is the dilemma whether to kill the project or not? (This is a serious question--what can possibly be more important to average virtualbox users than having a working desktop environment? Virtualbox has always occupied the desktop virtualization niche, so I'm trying to figure out what has changed...)

I have fine desktop environments without 3D. Maybe I'm just totally old-school, but I've never even felt the need for 3D on physical machines. But then, I use VMs mainly with VPN chains and Tor, for isolation and compartmentalization. If I really needed a 3D desktop environment, I'd use a dedicated box, and route through whatever anonymization path needed, using another box as multi-VM router.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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post #11

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I use Virtualbox daily without ever using a desktop environment in the VM. It's very useful in headless form for development machines when working locally.

I find this baffling when KVM is much more amenable to being scripted from the command line.

Have you ever used VBoxManage?
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