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Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by fulafel » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 7:49 AM UTC

predakanga wrote: post #22

XorNot wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this baffling when KVM is much more amenable to being scripted from the command line.

KVM isn't an option on OS X or Windows - in those cases, VirtualBox is the most mature free VM software available.

Windows and OSX both come with native hypervisors now. Those are what eg Docker "Native" runs on

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

#32

Post by mrmondo » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 7:55 AM UTC

Virtualbox is so far past dead to me, terrible networking issues and performance, dreadfully poor IO performance and oracle to top it off.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by ansible » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 7:59 AM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #7

Switch from vb to lxc/docker and you get great GPU driver support, even CUDA.

Really?

I was at one point trying to get GPU passthrough working with LXC and I could never get programs to actually run. Ubuntu 16.04, CUDA 7.5 or maybe 8.0, and a cheap GTX 730.

Maybe I'll have to try again. I was also trying this so that I could run my desktop environment in a container too.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by dagw » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:21 AM UTC

fulafel wrote: post #31

predakanga wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KVM isn't an option on OS X or Windows - in those cases, VirtualBox is the most mature free VM software available.

Windows and OSX both come with native hypervisors now. Those are what eg Docker "Native" runs on

At least on Windows I find that Virtual box gives a better interactive desktop experience when running Linux as a guest.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by nomercy400 » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:21 AM UTC

hedora wrote: post #9

Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox, so is the dilemma whether to kill the project or not? (This is a serious question--what can possibly be more important to average virtualbox users than having a working desktop environment? Virtualbox has always occupied the desktop virtualization niche, so I'm trying to figure out what has changed...)

It is free (compared to VMWare). It is easy to start with (compared to, say, Docker) It allows you to 'simulate' an architecture with multiple machines. Doing it all on one machine will have dependencies you didn't expect (eg shared env, everything localhost). It allows you to run a server application without cluttering your dev machine.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by y4mi » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:23 AM UTC

BuuQu9hu wrote: post #14

XorNot wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this baffling when KVM is much more amenable to being scripted from the command line.

Vagrant. Many of us still have and use Vagrant.

vagrant is completely modular though... i use vagrant with libvirt/qemu at work for nested VMs

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by mtve » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:26 AM UTC

predakanga wrote: post #22

XorNot wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this baffling when KVM is much more amenable to being scripted from the command line.

KVM isn't an option on OS X or Windows - in those cases, VirtualBox is the most mature free VM software available.

HAXM module and QEMU works fine for me on Windows.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by harrygeez » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:47 AM UTC

I tried running Arch Linux on both VirtualBox and VMware Player on my Windows machine at work and Compton's performance is terrible. It's strange because it runs so well on VMware Fusion on my MacBook. Can someone recommend a better way to virtualize Linux desktop with composition in Windows?

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by krzyk » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:51 AM UTC

hedora wrote: post #9

Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox, so is the dilemma whether to kill the project or not? (This is a serious question--what can possibly be more important to average virtualbox users than having a working desktop environment? Virtualbox has always occupied the desktop virtualization niche, so I'm trying to figure out what has changed...)

Why do you need 3d acceleration for using a system? GUIs work perfectly without any 3D acceleration. Are you planing on playong games? If so it is not a good idea in any VM.

Re: 3D support for X11 guests

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Post by raverbashing » Sun, Apr 09, 2017, 8:53 AM UTC

hedora wrote: post #9

Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox, so is the dilemma whether to kill the project or not? (This is a serious question--what can possibly be more important to average virtualbox users than having a working desktop environment? Virtualbox has always occupied the desktop virtualization niche, so I'm trying to figure out what has changed...)

> Without 3d support, basically no-one can use virtualbox

What? I can only laugh at such a statement

Don't use hyped up desktop managers that need 3D to work.