Earlier quoted context omitted.
Worker Unions should do that, not the state.
Why?
My guess is that political ideology demands it.
New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
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Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#62Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.
Careful!! There's quite a few ways to verify past salary. Specially some employers report employment information to private databases and your potential employer runs a "employment report," like banks run a credit report, as part of a mandatory background check. To see if you lied. Of course, they can't do that without your permission but agreeing to a background check is a condition of employment. The database i am…
That's why you just say "around" and add 20% to your current salary.
And even if a company does find out, who cares? What I made at a prior job has zero bearing on my next job. If the new company thinks I bring in enough value to be paid X, then they paying X should be fine.
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#63The analogy is not perfect, but all the time people like to know how much a house or car sold for in the past, or how much a stock traded for the in past, etc. Seems like useful data.
Now, I'm not advocating for or against this particular question, but I sure do hope there is data collected and studied on the effect this has in NY before anyone jumps to conclusions. I feel it's too easy to have a knee-jerk reaction on this one.
There is no way to know whether this helps/hurts/is neutral for any particular class of people without studying its effects.
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#64Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.
Careful!! There's quite a few ways to verify past salary. Specially some employers report employment information to private databases and your potential employer runs a "employment report," like banks run a credit report, as part of a mandatory background check. To see if you lied. Of course, they can't do that without your permission but agreeing to a background check is a condition of employment. The database i am…
I'm not a recruiter, nor a hiring manager, but personally, I'd be more concerned about the competence of someone who answered truthfully. Yes, engineers probably aren't hired for being good at salary negotiation, but still.. it isn't hard to figure out that telling the truth isn't beneficial.
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#65Would have rather seen a bill also legitimize complete and total lying in response to the question. Answers or claims regarding past salary may not be verified or used as the basis of any employment action.
A bill to legitimize lying would help people who know about it. But the people who most need the help are those who have never heard about this controversy or don't think they have the power in the negotiation to consider lying. The way NYC did it, the law protects the most vulnerable.
True. I edited my response to say "also" thinking about your point. I like my proposal less and less, honestly. I'm personally not a very good liar, so it wouldn't help much.
Also, there's just something that feels wrong about normalizing lying instead of fixing the root problem.
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is, recruiters/hiring managers will sometimes call your former employer to verify your actual salary.
If your former employer releases salary information without your consent, sue them into the ground.
What's the law that says they can't do that?
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#67Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.
Careful!! There's quite a few ways to verify past salary. Specially some employers report employment information to private databases and your potential employer runs a "employment report," like banks run a credit report, as part of a mandatory background check. To see if you lied. Of course, they can't do that without your permission but agreeing to a background check is a condition of employment. The database i am…
Correct: a service called The Work Number by Equifax.
http://www.theworknumber.com
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#68The analogy is not perfect, but all the time people like to know how much a house or car sold for in the past, or how much a stock traded for the in past, etc. Seems like useful data. Now, I'm not advocating for or against this particular question, but I sure do hope there is data collected and studied on the effect this has in NY before anyone jumps to conclusions. I feel it's too easy to have a knee-jerk reaction o…
The problem is the one way communication. I would personally have no problem giving out my past salary, in return for the current salaries if all comparable current employees at the company.
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#69"Closing the gender pay gay is important" Come on NYT....
Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary
#70Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.
It took me a while to understand that most people don't realize you can lie on this with almost zero downside. Very few employers are checking, and very few times is that information legally available to them. The most they can typically get is the "typical" salary for a given position at a large company. There are exceptions of course, and the good ole' boys network can sometimes run deep. But in the end, if you are…
I've worked with 100's of people in the offer stage with companies and the only companies I've had check in the past are financial companies.