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New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

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Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

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post #4

Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.

Could that be considered fraud?

Employers lie about salaries all the time. I Know plenty of people who were told their salary was one of the highest of their coworkers where in reality they made less than most. Is that fraud?

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#32
post #5

This is bad for the free market and freedom of speech. I hope it gets challenged on First Amendment grounds.

The free market is trash. Employers must be regulated.

Worker Unions should do that, not the state.

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is, recruiters/hiring managers will sometimes call your former employer to verify your actual salary.

Do any employers actually provide that information? The most I've ever had any previous employer ever say about my time there is, "Eric worked here from $start_date to $end_date." I understand there to be liability involved if they say anything more.

Yeah that has always been my understanding as well. Past employers are only allowed to say yes or no to you working there if asked.

Where this comes from I don't know. I'm sure there is a law that this common belief comes from.

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#34
post #5

This is bad for the free market and freedom of speech. I hope it gets challenged on First Amendment grounds.

How is this bad for "freedom of speech"? Please elaborate on this ludicrous claim.

Let's say they make a law saying you can't ask your coworkers what their salary is - wouldn't you agree that is against freedom of speech?

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#35
post #24

I'll have to find some way to bring it up myself. A higher than usual salary history is a good tangible signal to future employers and I'm not going to give it up.

Way to see the bigger picture for employee rights here.

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#36
post #4

Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.

This points to an interesting method of poverty reduction - identify the little tricks which knowledgeable people use to get ahead in the system, and tweak the system to make the tricks less necessary.

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#37
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this bad for "freedom of speech"? Please elaborate on this ludicrous claim.

Let's say they make a law saying you can't ask your coworkers what their salary is - wouldn't you agree that is against freedom of speech?

No, I would not. Freedom of speech pertains to legislation from congress preventing political speech. Most companies already prohibit employees from discussing salaries, under penalty of termination. Any business can ask you to leave, as a patron, for using profane speech in their establishment, or any number of other reasons. Please stop participating in this absurd and obnoxious fallacy wherein you decry anything you dislike as violating your "free speech"

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#38

Seems like an ethics test. Will you tell the truth about your previous low salary or lie to make sure you don't get lowballed? Then for the employer, will you decrease the salary to match previous low rates or wages? Or will you pay him/her the market rate regardless? Personally, I have always been asked how much I made at previous places. I prefer to give a range than specify individually.

> I prefer to give a range

I've never understood this tactic. Specifying a range seems like a good way to underprice yourself. If you give a range, the recruiter will simply assume that your current salary is very close to the bottom of the range.

Now, if you mean that you give a range of previous salaries, the recruiter will know your best previous salary anyway. And they'll probably knock a fair bit off the top assuming you're padding.

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#39
post #4

Good. Not enough people realize the best way to answer this question is with a straight-up lie.

Could that be considered fraud?

No more than "my wife thinks we need to take the children out of school, so I'll need the money to make that possible" is.

Re: New York City bans employers from asking potential workers about past salary

#40
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this have to do with freedom of speech?

Making a law that says "Employers can't say or ask X" goes directly against freedom of speech.

No it doesn't, any more than "employers can't lie to you" does.
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