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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#631

FLAVOR: Server, Core HEADLINE: Snaps are too hard to make ROLE: DevOps, release, infrastructure engineer DESCRIPTION: In fact they are so hard and convoluted to make that I always fall back on just comiling and packaging everything inside a Vagrant VM or a Docker container and then just generating a tar or deb with FPM. You guys really need to simplify the process if you want software to be delivered through snaps.

take a look at build.snapcraft.io ;-) magic is happening :D

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#632
FLAVOR: All 3 flavors (installer)

HEADLINE: Allow installer option to boot from a _compressed_ ZFS rootfs (not btrfs)

DESCRIPTION: Using ZFS for a rootfs, make full use of its capabilities (snapshots, compression, etc...).

ROLE/AFILIATION : Embedded systems / (A large provider of industrial things)

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#633

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Replace X11 with Mir or Wayland - DESCRIPTION: X11 is old, slow, and full of security issues. Mir, even in alpha, is much more responsive and provies important 21st centry feature set. Wayland is already used by a major distro. X11 is that cobweb that's gone uncleaned in our closet for too long. - HEADLINE: Improve UI. - DESCRIPTION: When I use Ubuntu it's often easier to use the te…

The "X11 is full of security issues" is full if FUD, IME. Like, they say true-but-irrelevant-and-misleading statements like "any program running in an X11 server can view/alter any other program in the same X11 server, and Wayland fixes this" - this irrelevant because common security of practice, IIRC, is to run nested X11 servers and give each program its own. X11 also has a whole lot of commonly-used security/sandb…

> this irrelevant because common security of practice, IIRC, is to run nested X11 servers and give each program its own.

If true that is a valid reason to drop it in my opinion.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#634
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: A more stable alternative to ubuntu-vm-builder (vmbuilder) or more work on this project - DESCRIPTION: Scripted KVM guest creation via command line appears to be limited to 'ubuntu-vm-builder' (or 'vmbuilder' as it is now). On Xenial, I have to manually modify python code to have this tool actually perform guest creation without an error. Would love to have a reliable tool for automated KVM guest creation that didn't incur all of the overhead of an OpenStack config.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#635

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Core HEADLINE: Allow rollback/snapshot of any change of system settings or package installs/purges DESCRIPTION: It would be great if Ubuntu had an undo mechanism for any operation that changes the system settings, or the installed packages. Also, being able to snapshot system directories like /etc, /usr and /var would be great. Perhaps this can be implemented by running Ubuntu on top of a snapshotting…

You can already do this at the OS level using a A/B Partitioning when making your Core Image. For the software level, well, snaps are basically that as they’re squashfs packages. just snap remove them and erase your custom settings located on your home directory.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#637

No one has been ragging on Unity.... They should be. Unity is still garbage. Ruined Ubuntu for me after about 10 years of usage... Still never returning because Unity is such a resource hog, so non-standard in its interface, and the fact that teaching someone Unity is a useless skill. We used Ubuntu for years to teach people how to use a computer for the first time: we gave them old PC's with Ubuntu installed. Unity…

On the other hand, I really like unity. It works just like my old Windows 7 setup, but with handy features like being able to search menu items using alt.

Technically Unity seems to be a bit of a mess, and I like Gnome 3's multi-desktop setup better, but I definitely would like to see them keep the basic design of unity.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Built-in support for installing up-to-date packages - DESCRIPTION: Currently, `apt install [package]` on LTS Ubuntu will install a package that is up to 24 months out of date (or more if you're not on the latest LTS). Literally one month ago, using the latest version of Windows 10, I installed Ubuntu for Windows (which installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and `apt-get install nodejs` insta…

The entire point of LTS is that things don't change. Security features are back ported, but you're on Node 0.10 because when 14.04 was released it included Node 0.10. You have an old version of youtube-dl because that's what was available at the time. You use an LTS release when you want to do 'apt-get upgrade' and not change anything. No new features, no deprecated features, no changes other than back ported bug and…

Also as follow on, you'll find that the packages that draw community support also tend to have PPAs (personal package archive), these are very easy to add to Ubuntu these days and typically backport more recent versions of software to older LTS (and sometimes non LTS) Ubuntu releases.

For example I use the nginx PPA on some of my older servers and it supports nginx 1.11 on Ubuntu 14.04 even thought 14.04.4 LTS only supports 1.4.6.

apt-add-repository is what you're looking for.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#640
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- FLAVOR: Desktop - HEADLINE: More stable and polished desktop - DESCRIPTION: This one is hard to pin down, but I'd like to see more general polish and stability in the Unity desktop. One example would be around multi-monitor support, it's pretty good, but a bit funky in some places. For example, if I have a monitor plugged in and I let the laptop screen lock come on, I can sit there and watch while both displays cyc…

-FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop -HEADLINE: Network manager that works -DESCRIPTION: The single thing that would make Ubuntu seem 10x more polished than it now is the horrible state of the network manager. The little wifi bar in the top right. Sometimes, randomly, after dropping a wifi connection, or going to sleep and waking it will: 1) Stop listing SSIDs except the one I've already configured and want to connect to. (But I…

Add the fact that openvpn via Network manager has been broken for ~3-4 years as well.
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