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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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No one has been ragging on Unity.... They should be. Unity is still garbage. Ruined Ubuntu for me after about 10 years of usage... Still never returning because Unity is such a resource hog, so non-standard in its interface, and the fact that teaching someone Unity is a useless skill.

We used Ubuntu for years to teach people how to use a computer for the first time: we gave them old PC's with Ubuntu installed. Unity made this impossible. It was too slow for the old machines, too hard to figure out for the new users, and too unfriendly for experienced users to tolerate.

Hate hate hate hate Unity. Always will. Went to Mint because of it. Even installing another windowing system was a huge pain in the ass, because first, you had to install Unity and go to Synaptic and install an old Gnome. This took HOURS because Unity was so freaking SLOW!

I dunno, maybe you fixed these things, but Unity ended my relationship with Ubuntu after years of advocating for it to everyone I knew.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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post #103

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: include f.lux or redshift as a default installed package. - DESCRIPTION: by including f.lux / redshift , Ubuntu will be helping users to get better sleep . I know it's very difficult to accommodate requests for default apps, but macOS and iOS has Night Shift, Android has Night Mode. Thanks !

Unfortunately redshift doesn't work with Wayland or Mir.

Gnome's Night Light works great with Wayland.

(This doesn't help on Unity/Mir of course... just an option)

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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FLAVOR: Desktop HEADLINE: Pick an official laptop for the release. ROLE: End-user, Sysadmin, Developer I would love for Ubuntu to, with each release, pick a laptop vendor and a laptop and just Make It Work. All the components. Out of the box. As near perfect as one can get it. So when I'm in the market for a new laptop, I can just buy that one. And I'm not talking about a pro gear like the XPS. Just simple, cheap con…

I'm about ready to upgrade my 4 year-old laptop so this is relevant to my interest. I'm looking for an Ubuntu-friendly laptop and this always causes anxiety. My current laptop was some version of HP Pavilion. It mostly works but it was much more hassle than I wanted getting Ubuntu installed and there are still a few minor glitches that I never got figured out. Short of this, an official C(c)anonical web page listing…

Ubuntu tends to have a list of hardware[1] that plays well with it. From my personal experience, I've had good luck with Thinkpads and Dell precisions.

[1] https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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post #167

- FLAVOR: [Ubuntu Desktop] - HEADLINE: Join Wayland - DESCRIPTION: Instead of reinventing the wheel with Unity8/Mir, please join Wayland development and maybe join forces with Linux Mint and switch from Unity to Cinnamon or MATE, with Flatpak supports for desktop apps.

SECONDED!

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

#565

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop HEADLINE: Turnkey virtual GPU dGPU virtualization of Linux and Windows DESCRIPTION: A turnkey (easy GUI setup) that uses virtual GPU support in driver to partition the GPU into multiple devices (or just two) where one can be shared with a Linux or Windows VM, on Windows this would allow dGPU (almost native DirectX 11 gaming) with only one graphics card (as well as on laptops). This would allow…

This one is going to take a little bit of time, maybe even a hardware generation. Intel is working on their solution (Intel GVT), AMD's new Vega is supposed to support SR-IOV (which will require fixing bugs in mainboards and BIOSes), and Nvidia is still fighting against virtualization of the Geforge line.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

HEADLINE: Make network-manager robust

DESCRIPTION: I've got a shortcut to:

`sudo service network-manager restart`

I'm looking for a reason to delete this shortcut. Currently I use it every day or so when wireless drops out, and quite often multiple times a day.

ROLE/AFFILIATION: A Data Scientist who uses ubuntu desktop and champions Ubuntu server whenever possible.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Desktop - HEADLINE: More stable and polished desktop - DESCRIPTION: This one is hard to pin down, but I'd like to see more general polish and stability in the Unity desktop. One example would be around multi-monitor support, it's pretty good, but a bit funky in some places. For example, if I have a monitor plugged in and I let the laptop screen lock come on, I can sit there and watch while both displays cyc…

-FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop -HEADLINE: Network manager that works -DESCRIPTION: The single thing that would make Ubuntu seem 10x more polished than it now is the horrible state of the network manager. The little wifi bar in the top right. Sometimes, randomly, after dropping a wifi connection, or going to sleep and waking it will: 1) Stop listing SSIDs except the one I've already configured and want to connect to. (But I…

Seconded.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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post #14

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop: 1. HEADLINE: A way to have different scaling for external monitors hooked up to my HiDPI laptop. Currently I need can only set a single scaling factor, so I need to ajust my laptop screen resolution to match scaling of the external monitor. If that's not possible, a way to automatically set resolution and scale for both screens once you hook one up would already save me a lot of manual switc…

On 1.: Seriously, I was gonna write the exact same thing. Just today I researched once again, since it's quite a hassle, and nowadays seems pretty common to have a HiDPI laptop screen in combination with a standard-DPI external screen.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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post #295

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: All updates reboot-free - DESCRIPTION: Short of a major-version update, the software updater should never ask me "Please restart the computer to begin using your updated software" again. I'm already using the "Canonical Livepatch Service" - but I still get asked to reboot much more often than I would like. - ROLE/AFFILIATION: Programmer

If it is a Linux kernel update, then it's either Livepatch or you reboot. If it is a system library, then for the apps to use the newly installed library, they need to be restarted (sometimes logging out and logging in again should be enough). If that library is the system "libc" library or something similar, then it has to be reboot (not relogin). The only way that I can think for reboot-free updates, is to save the…

> If that library is the system "libc" library or something similar, then it has to be reboot (not relogin). The only way that I can think for reboot-free updates, is to save the full state of the system, then silently restart everything to the previous state.

Restarting running services and logging in again is fully sufficient to handle a libc upgrade, at the very least on Debian. "Just restart" is maybe easier advice to give, but overshoots the target a little bit.

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