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Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by bambax »

hackuser wrote: post #42
bmcusick wrote: post #13

American courts should have a "Loser pays" rule, and stricter standards for determining what is a frivolous lawsuit warranting additional penalties for the filer. American jurisprudence has always favored making sure "everyone gets their day in Court" to the point where trolls and professional litigants are ruining things.

What happens if your small business sues Google? Right or wrong, you are betting the business on that case. If you lose, Google's legal costs will consume your entire business. That said, it's hard for your small business to sue Google anyway.

It shouldn't be based on actual costs but on an averaged estimation; and it shouldn't be automatic but left at the discretion of the court, specifically to punish frivolous litigation.

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by cooper12 »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #9

> Companies with deep pockets lock down the market by making it too expensive for competitors to operate and to offer lower-priced yet quality products. It is a legitimate tactic; even those who succumb to it don’t really begrudge the approach. Who the hell wrote this article, the CEO of Acushnet? "Don't get the wrong idea, small businesses love being sued over frivolous patents they never infringed upon!"

I think someone complained to Quartz that their articles were biased, so the writer here decided to represent both angles. ("they're just doing business" vs "they're bullying any competition") In my opinion, one of the most difficult lessons the internet age will have to learn is that the truth isn't always in the middle, and that both sides are not exactly the same.

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

blhack wrote: post #32
vhold wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact there is a high barrier of entry might be one of the only appeals golf has at all? Playing it is a status symbol. Although, I think maybe that elite status symbols themselves may be on a downswing, maybe because of the growing awareness of wealth inequality? Super rich people used to ride around in stretch limos and people found it interesting and exciting, now there's a growing perception that's disgusting…

>The fact there is a high barrier of entry might be one of the only appeals golf has at all? This is ridiculous. Golf is a sport that you can play from when you first start walking, until nearly the day you die. That's the appeal. It requires extreme concentration in a way that I've never experienced in any other sport I've ever played. I would highly, highly recommend that people learn to play golf. I wish it didn't…

I have heard it is similar to archery. I have never played. I was an archer though.

But I dislike most sports that seem contrived (archery is a real skill that became a sport because the skill is not needed, golf is just a made up game as far as I can tell).

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by nether »

snissn wrote: post #47
yourapostasy wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WRT prices of contact lenses, I use an ultrasonic contact lens cleaner with plain saline (Ringer's will also work if that is cheaper in your area), then storing the contact lenses in my lens solution to disinfect. Far better comfort profile, for far longer, than I ever obtained following the manufacturer instructions of 20 seconds rubbing on each side, and 5 seconds rinsing on each side. The saline is half as much as…

dude just go to dailies

Seriously unless you're budget constrained, so much better. Cost twice as much as 2-week lenses, but you get to crack open a sterile pair each morning. Toss em at night.

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by aryehof »

If parties generally cannot afford to defend claims such as this, surely this reflects poorly on access to justice. Justice only available to the rich?

How can one claim a state based on the rule of law, if it is not accessible to all in a timely manner?

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by Buge »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #9

> Companies with deep pockets lock down the market by making it too expensive for competitors to operate and to offer lower-priced yet quality products. It is a legitimate tactic; even those who succumb to it don’t really begrudge the approach. Who the hell wrote this article, the CEO of Acushnet? "Don't get the wrong idea, small businesses love being sued over frivolous patents they never infringed upon!"

I found the article quite sympathetic to Costco.

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by hkmurakami »

kuschku wrote: post #38
blhack wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The fact there is a high barrier of entry might be one of the only appeals golf has at all? This is ridiculous. Golf is a sport that you can play from when you first start walking, until nearly the day you die. That's the appeal. It requires extreme concentration in a way that I've never experienced in any other sport I've ever played. I would highly, highly recommend that people learn to play golf. I wish it didn't…

> This is ridiculous. Golf is a sport that you can play from when you first start walking, until nearly the day you die. You’ve never considered that Golf has an actual price to it, while most poorer kids just play soccer with a single leather ball on the street, costing less than a dollar for dozens of kids?

It used to be much more affordable, and in some corners of the country (Texas, some parts of the Northeast), it remains reasonable. The Bay Area is one of, if not the most unaffordable place to play golf in the United States.

Fred Couples (Hall of Famer) grew up in Seattle, biked to Jefferson Park Golf Course during the summer every day with $5 in hand from his mother, played a round of golf for $3.50 and got a burger and a coke with the remaining $1.50.

Some courses (including aforementioned Jefferson) will have free or heavily discounted rounds for junior golfers after some cutoff time in the afternoon.

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by hkmurakami »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #53
blhack wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The fact there is a high barrier of entry might be one of the only appeals golf has at all? This is ridiculous. Golf is a sport that you can play from when you first start walking, until nearly the day you die. That's the appeal. It requires extreme concentration in a way that I've never experienced in any other sport I've ever played. I would highly, highly recommend that people learn to play golf. I wish it didn't…

I have heard it is similar to archery. I have never played. I was an archer though. But I dislike most sports that seem contrived (archery is a real skill that became a sport because the skill is not needed, golf is just a made up game as far as I can tell).

Aren't most ball/racquet sports pretty contrived?

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by BEEdwards »

> It is a legitimate tactic; even those who succumb to it don’t really begrudge the approach.

Maybe I just haven't given up yet, but what the f*ck? This is not a legitimate tactic, this is LITERALLY everything wrong with our present system.

Re: A lawsuit over Costco golf balls

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Post by [deleted] »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #9

> Companies with deep pockets lock down the market by making it too expensive for competitors to operate and to offer lower-priced yet quality products. It is a legitimate tactic; even those who succumb to it don’t really begrudge the approach. Who the hell wrote this article, the CEO of Acushnet? "Don't get the wrong idea, small businesses love being sued over frivolous patents they never infringed upon!"

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