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Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#101

Post by jzymbaluk »

basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I definitely spend a lot of my entertainment time watching youtube. I really agree what you're saying as far as big content creators not offering much substance to their videos, but it's wrong to think that the "big youtubers" are the only ones making things on Youtube. I have my subscriptions filled with some pretty amazing smaller youtubers who are making great, cerebral content all the time. I'm more interested in non-fiction, while it sounds like you're looking for fiction and story-telling, but I'll share some of my favorite channels anyway

PBS idea channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3LqW4ijMoENQ2Wv17ZrFJA

Historia Civilis - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv_vLHiWVBh_FR9vbeuiY-A

Langfocus - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNhX3WQEkraW3VHPyup8jkQ

Crash Course - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX6b17PVsYBQ0ip5gyeme-Q

Baz Battles - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx-dJoP9hFCBloY9qodykvw

Wendover Productions - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9RM-iSvTu1uPJb8X5yp3EQ

Practical Engineering - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMOqf8ab-42UUQIdVoKwjlQ

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#102

Post by philangist »

evilDagmar wrote: post #94
raesene6 wrote: post #39

I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…

The WSJ may have sensationalized things, but PewDiePie legitimately made those incredibly tacky statements and "jokes" all by himself. We don't need that type of tactless behavior in online gaming. What happens on 4chan should stay on 4chan.

Who are you to police what we do or don't need in online gaming? Why is your definition of tactless behavior more valid than mine? All of this just seems like recreational outrage from the outside looking in.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#103

Post by evilDagmar »

Raknarg wrote: post #23
kriro wrote: post #15

So errrrm...am I completely out of touch with the world for not knowing who PewDiePie is (or what the incident referenced was)? Why not explain that in the beginning? There's a link later but I kind of went through most of the article blindly.

He is the largest youtuber, he has like 50M subscribers. Did a bit pretending to be a nazi that people took out of context alongside some other things, became a huge stupid controversy.

It wasn't taken out of context. It was an awful thing to do.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#104

Post by kh_hk »

Are we going to pretend none of this is done, including the article, just for the sake of creating drama and gossip?

Maybe I am trying to look too much into it, but it's pretty clear there's a network of content producers behind the scenes of all the famous Youtubers, doing all the editing, selecting 'crappy' thumbnails, and playing the videogames on which the stars will later put their own voice over.

Doesn't this make a lot more sense than assuming some youtubers are supernatural and can churn out content by the hour?

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#105

Post by [deleted] »

nkrisc wrote: post #90
basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I regularly watch YouTube (I'm 27). I usually watch videos about woodworking, blacksmithing, machining, engineering, astronomy, math, chemistry, farming, and off-the-grid living. I find all of those valuable in that I learn something new nearly every time I watch one of those videos. That said, I also watch video game montages when I want a good laugh and some mindless entertainment. Here are some of my favorite chan…

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Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#106

Post by mcguire »

"You need ad revenue if you want to make a living talking over video games, which means views and that means uploads."

For some reason, that reminds me of the Four Noble Truths...

1. Life's a bitch...

2. ...Because you are an idiot.

3. So stop being an idiot.

4. No, really, just stop.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#107

Post by izacus »

philangist wrote: post #102
evilDagmar wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The WSJ may have sensationalized things, but PewDiePie legitimately made those incredibly tacky statements and "jokes" all by himself. We don't need that type of tactless behavior in online gaming. What happens on 4chan should stay on 4chan.

Who are you to police what we do or don't need in online gaming? Why is your definition of tactless behavior more valid than mine? All of this just seems like recreational outrage from the outside looking in.

He is "the public" - the same kind of public that kinda sets social norms for all other types of behaviour in media and real life.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#108

Post by neutronicus »

basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

Not so much anymore, but I watched a lot of Starcraft 2 and Dawn of War 2 on YouTube.

If you don't need to see things live, it's a much better experience than e.g. Twitch.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#109

Post by raesene6 »

evilDagmar wrote: post #94
raesene6 wrote: post #39

I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…

The WSJ may have sensationalized things, but PewDiePie legitimately made those incredibly tacky statements and "jokes" all by himself. We don't need that type of tactless behavior in online gaming. What happens on 4chan should stay on 4chan.

well I'd argue some of the WSJ quotes were deliberately taken out of context which changed their intention (specifically the one where PewDiePie compared Youtube's policies to those of Nazis (i.e. in a negative light) the WSJ straight up took that out of context and applied a meaning it did not have.)

That said tactless behaviour is unwelcome in online gaming.... really? I'm not a big gamer but large swathes of the community seem to be pervaded by tactless behaviour, PewDiwPie is hardly alone in that.

The fact that he's got 54 million subscribers implies that a decent proportion of the online gaming community are not averse to that style of content, for better or worse.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

#110

Post by michaelt »

basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I watch some youtube channels regularly. Broadcast TV and Netflix have economics that don't really allow for niche content.

For example, if you want to to watch someone take oscilloscopes apart [1] or tell you the amount of glass fibre reinforcing in different brands of electric drill [2] or pick hundreds of specially made locks [3] or watch hundreds of performances from a serious ballet competition [4] Youtube can provide that. Content like this wouldn't have any chance on Netflix or broadcast TV*

Of course, 99.9% of the content on youtube is absolute junk, and they do an awful job of highlighting stuff, the logged out homepage is full of absolute dreck, and so on. And I certainly don't see the creators I follow posting a video every day or any of that stuff.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/user/EEVblog/videos [2] https://www.youtube.com/user/arduinoversusevil/videos [3] https://www.youtube.com/user/bosnianbill/videos [4] https://www.youtube.com/user/PrixdeLausanne/videos

*I'm not even sure if it's economically sustainable on Youtube

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