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Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by busterarm »

Frondo wrote: post #56
raesene6 wrote: post #39

I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…

You could examine everything I have ever, ever written and you will never find me paying someone to hold up a sign reading "Death to Jews".

Allow me to introduce you to Andy Kaufman.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by jrkatz »

nicky0 wrote: post #79
jrkatz wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're really rockin on your cynicism right now, how is that any better?

I'm no better. I'm a terrible and flawed human, and I admit it. I don't pretend to be a concerned citizen righting wrongs and protecting children.

You are also very comfortable making assumptions about my motivations.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by dkbrk »

basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I do. But the content creators I watch aren't "Entertainment", they're interesting and educational and that, to me, is entertainment.

I didn't discover the channels I watch based on popularity, but on what interests me. Occasionally I'll find another channel that puts out high quality and interesting content, and add it to my list, but it's not something I set out to do methodically. Most of the channels I watch have less than 500,000 subscribers and several have less than 100,000.

I've never watched one of Pewdiepie's videos, or anything remotely resembling one of his videos, and have never had the slightest inclination to do so. He might as well be living in a different world.

That said, I find Youtube to be invaluable as a platform and don't feel the time I spend on it to be in any sense wasted.

Sturgeon's law is very much in effect. I suspect Youtube is especially predisposed to encouraging clickbait and low-effort content. It's all a matter of finding the quality stuff at the long end of the tail.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by ekianjo »

raesene6 wrote: post #39

I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…

> All reminded me of the quote generally attribued to cardinal Richelieu.

It's worse than that. Richelieu was talking about absolute power of the State. Now the online power is made up of hordes of folks whose only reason to exist is to make their views the predominant ones and silence anyone who's diverging from them, even if that person was simply joking. There's a surprising good share of folks who are anti-Freedom of expression especially in Gen X and Y. Anyone who lived during the 80s would find the present situation intoxicating.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by johnnydoe9 »

djrogers wrote: post #45
greenhatman wrote: post #27

Probably a lot of PewDiePie's appeal is his uncensoredness. It's just unfiltered non-sense for the most part. Some people can't deal with it. But a lot of people want it. Personally, I think that's why I love Dave Chappelle so much. He seems to be able to get away with a lot as well. Few things relaxes me like someone making jokes with no filters.

Don't mistake uncensored for unfiltered - Dave Chappelle probably writes and tells a joke a hundred times before you ever hear it, and it gets filtered through a LOT during that time.

Nice example since his recent stand up routine is getting a lot of flack for supposed anti-LGBT statements (I haven't seen it yet so I can't say if they have any value). With regards to the Pewdiepie case I am on his side here the quality of jokes doesn't matter it was pretty clear that they weren't meant to be taken seriously and that should be it.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by yeukhon »

raesene6 wrote: post #39

I've been watching Youtube vids for a long time (well relatively, like 10+ years) and it's one of my primary forms of entertainment. It has been very interesting to see youtubers come and go, a lot of them seem to burn out on the schedule of trying to produce content regularly, which I can understand, anyone who's edited videos would realise the time it can take to produce something of good quality. Pewdiepie is an i…

I don't follow his channel for the impression you had about him. I like the other gamers (Van--s, H-0, etc).

I think you nailed it that stress is so bad that many have lost appetite to release new videos on a regular basis, and I've seen this in many youtubers I was following for years. Some gamers I know just don't want to edit anymore and instead release most of the gameplay or switch to Twitch completely and depends on just donation.

While the top youtubers can make over a million a year, it can become a no-life job in the end. There's also an impression at least from my PoV that many YouTubers are now in LA making LA their "Silicon Valley" (yes, after all LA is the SV for entertainment industry) but since the living standard there is pricey and different some YTers might be under unhealthy stress. There was a YouTuber who committed suicide last year. We don't know exactly why, but it was very unexpected for fans and friends, and while I really don't want to speculate, I just can't help but think career might contributed to the cause regardless.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by dang »

nicky0 wrote: post #70
jrkatz wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'outrage crowd'. Huh. right now, the big blowup is over some guy ('jontron') spouting racist BS. This is bad enough in front of an adult audience, but in fact he is performing this for children. Shouldn't we be mad? For PewDiePie recently, the same story: He is an adult (who should know better) performing antisemitic jokes for children, who might not follow the joke were it funny. When they don't follow it, when it's…

There is always something or someone to be outraged at, and some people get off on it. That's the meaning of "outrage crowd". Moving from one target to another getting indignant. It's self serving, making them feel righteous.

> people like you

Please don't do this. Personal attacks aren't allowed here and aren't necessary to make your point.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by Jdam »

basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I really don't spend more than 10 hours a year watching Youtube. 27yo.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by oliwarner »

Take fairly normal people doing fairly normal things and then expose them to millions of people who think they're great and who can directly comment to let them know they're great. Or that they suck. Or both.

Even the traditional distance-Holywood celebrity model makes people go crazy, but when you're letting people right into your life and they're encouraging you to do crazier and crazier stuff, you're either going to burn out or blow up.

Re: Reasons YouTubers keep imploding, from a YouTuber

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Post by nkrisc »

basisword wrote: post #59

Does anyone here spend much of their usual 'entertainment' time watching YouTube (specifically content creators not TED talks and such)? I started doing it recently just to see what all the fuss is about as it seems pretty common for younger people (and I'm 26 so it's not like I'm old but I didn't do it). After subscribing to a few channels I started watching stuff regularly. Basically if I want to kill 10 mins I'll…

I regularly watch YouTube (I'm 27). I usually watch videos about woodworking, blacksmithing, machining, engineering, astronomy, math, chemistry, farming, and off-the-grid living. I find all of those valuable in that I learn something new nearly every time I watch one of those videos. That said, I also watch video game montages when I want a good laugh and some mindless entertainment.

Here are some of my favorite channels that I find watching almost always a good use of my time:

Engineering Practical Engineering: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMOqf8ab-42UUQIdVoKwjlQ

Physics Sixty Symbols: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvBqzzvUBLCs8Y7Axb-jZew

Woodworking Matthias Wandel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCckETVOT59aYw80B36aP9vw Frank Howarth: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_VCOJMaivgcGqPCTePLBA

Astronomy DeepSkyVideos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo-3ThNQmPmQSQL_L6Lx1_w

Chemistry Periodic Video: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtESv1e7ntJaLJYKIO1FoYw

Blacksmithing/Machining Clickspring: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCworsKCR-Sx6R6-BnIjS2MA Alec Steele: https://www.youtube.com/user/alectheblacksmith Brian Oltrogge: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOywIdppbhn6hkgcEtDMatg

General Interest Science Veritasium: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnyfMqiRRG1u-2MsSQLbXA Vsauce: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6nSFpj9HTCZ5t-N3Rm3-HA Smarter Everyday: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6107grRI4m0o2-emgoDnAA Tom Scott: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBa659QWEk1AI4Tg--mrJ2A

Cooking Chef John: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRIZtPl9nb9RiXc9btSTQNw Andrew Rea: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJHA_jMfCvEnv-3kRjTCQXw Byron Talbott: https://www.youtube.com/user/ByronTalbott

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