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How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

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Re: How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

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The mandate is what prevents this. The only failing is that the penalty was too small.

Really, there should be a default (probably public, but perhaps just the lowest-cost bronze plan you could buy off the exchange) option, for which you pay the premium, rather than a penalty. If you want coverage to be mandatory, make it really mandatory.

That seems like a good solution. Or, of course, stop pretending it's market-based and start taxing people for it instead. Unfortunately, the ACA had to be watered down a lot just to get the more conservative Democrats to accept it.

Re: How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

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I agree in theory, but I fear it's incompatible with ubiquitous emergency care. If someone collapses on the street, I don't want paramedics refusing care because they don't know if the person has opted out.

I wouldn't either. But emergency response is a very small portion of total healthcare costs.

Would that still be the case for people who are completely uninsured?

Re: How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

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I pay $800 for rent and once my monthly insurance cost got to $800 a month I canceled it and claimed "religious exemption" on my taxes. Including deductibles, I would have paid over $12000 a year. Plus my wife used a birth center instead of a regular OB for delivery. That wasn't covered by insurance either, so my potential max per year on "healthcare" was $16,000. That basically means that unless I get cancer, it is…

My family's $5k deductible plan was $400/month. Then Obamacare came along. $1,100 a month first year, then second year goes to $1,400 so I cancel and get short term coverage for $200/month, same deductible! But now I owe over $1k more in taxes.

This year cheapest plan in my state is $1,800 a month. Obamacare is a disaster.

Re: How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

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> I don't have kids Education taxes aren't for parents; they are for kids. And young children cannot yet plan or provide for their education. Contrast that with retirement, healthcare, life insurance, auto insurance, etc. These are all decisions made by people who should have the right to choose to participate.

> And young children cannot yet plan or provide for their education. But young children can plan for their own healthcare, or the healthcare of their providers? > retirement Exactly, we have social security here in the US. You can't opt out of that.

You can opt out of social security if you are Amish.

Re: How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

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And yet you can opt out of even this "mandatory" insurance. How? Don't drive an automobile. Does this make sense for your situation? Maybe it does, maybe doesn't. But no one will force you to spend your life working to pay auto insurance.

You can't opt out of the healthcare system though. If you're in a serious accident they're going to take you to the hospital healthcare or not.

They don't have to treat you if you have a DNR order on file or are lucid enough to refuse treatment.
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