How healthcare regulations affect even those who have good insurance plans

Post by ng12 » Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 11:26 PM UTC

paulddraper wrote: post #17

ng12 wrote: post #16

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That's such a tired old argument. I don't have kids, why do my taxes go to schools? Because it's a requirement for a functioning society. The current system isn't good either, but we need to start by ensuring everyone participates in the healthcare system, use it or not.

> I don't have kids Education taxes aren't for parents; they are for kids. And young children cannot yet plan or provide for their education. Contrast that with retirement, healthcare, life insurance, auto insurance, etc. These are all decisions made by people who should have the right to choose to participate.

Post by paulddraper » Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 11:27 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #19

paulddraper wrote: post #17

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> I don't have kids Education taxes aren't for parents; they are for kids. And young children cannot yet plan or provide for their education. Contrast that with retirement, healthcare, life insurance, auto insurance, etc. These are all decisions made by people who should have the right to choose to participate.

Mandatory auto insurance isn't for the buyer, it's for the people the buyer might potentially harm due to negligence.

Post by masonic » Fri, Mar 24, 2017, 11:46 PM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #6

esaym wrote: post #2

I pay $800 for rent and once my monthly insurance cost got to $800 a month I canceled it and claimed "religious exemption" on my taxes. Including deductibles, I would have paid over $12000 a year. Plus my wife used a birth center instead of a regular OB for delivery. That wasn't covered by insurance either, so my potential max per year on "healthcare" was $16,000. That basically means that unless I get cancer, it is…

And then when you do get cancer or some other expensive disease, the rest of us get to pay for your treatment. Costs need to come down, but opting out of the system because you're currently healthy isn't good.

  And then when you do get cancer or some other expensive disease, the rest of us get to pay for your treatment.

Post by Frondo » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 12:09 AM UTC

masonic wrote: post #25

mikeash wrote: post #6

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And then when you do get cancer or some other expensive disease, the rest of us get to pay for your treatment. Costs need to come down, but opting out of the system because you're currently healthy isn't good.

And then when you do get cancer or some other expensive disease, the rest of us get to pay for your treatment. Yes, that's the exact strategy that Obamacare rewards. The Democrats could have limited "preexisting condition" protections to those who obtained coverage in the first year for as long as they retained coverage (in any form, including MedicAid). They chose not to.

Post by esaym » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 1:16 AM UTC

mikeash wrote: post #6

esaym wrote: post #2

I pay $800 for rent and once my monthly insurance cost got to $800 a month I canceled it and claimed "religious exemption" on my taxes. Including deductibles, I would have paid over $12000 a year. Plus my wife used a birth center instead of a regular OB for delivery. That wasn't covered by insurance either, so my potential max per year on "healthcare" was $16,000. That basically means that unless I get cancer, it is…

And then when you do get cancer or some other expensive disease, the rest of us get to pay for your treatment. Costs need to come down, but opting out of the system because you're currently healthy isn't good.