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Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#101

Post by barfbuttface »

rabboRubble wrote: post #94
kgwxd wrote: post #53

I made a add-on for myself to shun sites that behave in ways I don't like. It removes links to their sites from every page. It effectively removes them from the internet. I think that's a way scarier scenario for a website owner than just getting their ads blocked. If the list were community driven and widely used, I think site owners would start changing their behavior. I know most people just want the content and d…

Can your add-on remove all mentions of the Kardashians, Taylor Swift, Kanye, and Bruce/Caitlin Jenner?

I'm going to use this to block any advertisements/PR from Apple, Google and Microsoft.

Thanks OP.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#102

Post by russdpale »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #86
pcmaffey wrote: post #31

No, I don't want to chat with someone either. So please stop beeping at me and popping up a chat modal.

You would be surprised at the number of chats e-commerce websites receive in a day. One of our clients (selling clothes targeting 40+ women) had their sales almost double when we added in a simple livechat widget. Since I discovered that they actually put helpful people behind those chats I've started to use them. Now I ask questions with all my online transactions. "How is the warranty? Do clients return this produc…

Yeh totally agree! I love the chat windows but its annoying when they pop up automatically.. That is just poor design.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#103

Post by jdavis703 »

chipperyman573 wrote: post #92
jdavis703 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like a bouncer checking IDs at the bar? If I don't want to give my ID to a stranger, then I just don't visit that bar, or find one with more lax security..

Those are different situations, bars have a legal obligation to prevent people under 21 from entering or they have to ID everyone buying alcohol.

Yes, but some are obnoxious and card everyone, others card only people who look like teenagers. Some have armed security that pats you down, other's have no guards or bouncers.

I'd personally rather spend my free time at a business that doesn't harass me, so when it's up to me I go to more chill bars.

My point being, this behaviour happens in real life too... and some people would rather go to bars that have high-security, dot their Is and cross their Ts. But ultimately the choice is up to both the business and consumer, it doesn't have anything to do with being acceptable or not.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#104

Post by ajeet_dhaliwal »

Lxr wrote: post #9

This is what happens when you mindlessly optimise for metrics like user signups - not surprisingly, you get more signups when you block the content with an obnoxious modal but after a few years, you wonder where all your users went. How much value do you really get from a user who was forced to sign up with a gun to their head?

And to top it off click a misguided 'cute' attempt at making you change your mind with a further obnoxious button titled 'No I am not interested in '. No doubt further inspired by this sort of optimization study.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#105

Post by timdavila »

techsupporter wrote: post #90
Animats wrote: post #81

In Firefox, right click on popups and bring up "Inspect Element". Then find the top level element of the popup in the inspector, and Delete Node. The modal disappears. This even bypasses some paywalls. Some sites won't then scroll, though. An add-on to dismiss modals should be possible. Most people do ad-removal add-ons by looking for explicit HTML text, but there are more general approaches. Look for a big box that…

Do you know of a way, say in the JavaScript console (I'm guessing?), to reset scroll behaviors? I'm not clever enough with JS or CSS to have figured it out. Deleting the modal using the inspector is what I do but I can't get around the scrolling...

This will solve the problem for you on most sites:

document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].style.overflow = "scroll";

The css property you're looking for is "overflow," usually on the body or html tag.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#106

Post by js2 »

I use Safari and I almost always click/tap the reader view icon as soon as the page loads. This:

1) Shows the text even if a modal has already tried to obscure it.

2) Ensures a legible font and contrast.

3) Undoes stupid scroll jacking. Yay, the text scrolls smoothly again.

4) Fixes the scroll bar so that it provides an accurate indication of how far through the page I've read, since the non-text crap I don't care about isn't part of the view now.

5) Allows me to copy text w/o worrying about anything else getting inserted to the clipboard.

6) Doesn't disclose to the site how far I've scrolled, which is none of their business.

And probably other good things I'm forgetting. Tapping the reader view icon as soon as the page loads has become habitual.

I obviously run an ad blocker as well.

This is in both iOS and macOS. Reader view FTW. It's the next best thing to disabling Javascript entirely.

Chrome and Firefox should include an as good reader view built in.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#107

Post by koonsolo »

Good thing we replaced those annoying Flash banners with javascript

Old guys like me saw this coming from miles away, it's just history repeating itself.

To give you all a heads-up: in the future browsers will ask you "This site wants to open a new javascript dialog. Show/block"

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#108

Post by apostacy »

old-gregg wrote: post #87

IMO it doesn't worth the time to discuss appropriate and inappropriate uses of JavaScript. It's way simpler to disable it entirely. I use two browsers: Firefox with "YesScript" extension which keeps the black list of sites where JS is disabled: see a popup? laggy scrolling? sticky headers? Bam! hit the button and you won't see it again. For work, where web applications like Google suite matter, I use Chrome. Some tim…

Those are all really good ideas, and I've had some similar thoughts myself.

But, they won't be added to Firefox unless they are first added to Chrome, and they certainly won't be added to Chrome.

Firefox was I believe the first browser to include blocking of popups, and it was said to be irresponsible and harmful to advertisers. But the days of Firefox being at all disruptive are long over.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#109

Post by dest »

rabboRubble wrote: post #94
kgwxd wrote: post #53

I made a add-on for myself to shun sites that behave in ways I don't like. It removes links to their sites from every page. It effectively removes them from the internet. I think that's a way scarier scenario for a website owner than just getting their ads blocked. If the list were community driven and widely used, I think site owners would start changing their behavior. I know most people just want the content and d…

Can your add-on remove all mentions of the Kardashians, Taylor Swift, Kanye, and Bruce/Caitlin Jenner?

check Block M, that blocks Black M content https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/block-m-the-black-...

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#110

Post by marssaxman »

digitalengineer wrote: post #6

Yes it's annoying but they work: "sticking a big ole pop-up in their face can be one of the most effective ways to jolt their attention & grab their email for a return visit." Peep Laja. https://conversionxl.com/popup-defense/?hvid=2EcGFw

The blatant manipulation offends me so much that I have made a policy of closing such pages on sight. I will not close your popup, I will not interact with your popup, your site is dead to me.
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