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Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#41

No, I don't want to chat with someone either. So please stop beeping at me and popping up a chat modal.

I see this all the time on emerging startup apps and websites. Very annoying. It beeps and pops up and covers the bottom right side of the screen and sometimes covers up content. Worst still, it pops up 10 seconds after I arrived at their site when I haven't even begun to really dig into the information, so of course I don't have questions!

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#42
post #4

There’s no keyboard shortcut you can use to get rid of them. Sure there is: 1. Alt-F4 2. Ctrl-Alt-Del

I've found that many of them respond to ESC, probably for accessibility reasons. It's almost become a reflex when the page suddenly goes dim to thwack the key before whatever garbage they decided to shove in my face finishes loading.

That's nice when you are on a web browser designed for desktop use, but that recourse is never present on mobile, which is where I encounter a large majority of modals.

It's doubly annoying when you have to press that tiny little X with sausage fingers like mine. Not to mention when they are coded to only display an image of an X rather than an actual close link and you get redirected anyways.

I hate these thing with a burning passion.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#43
post #39

From the perspective of crowdfunding 1. The crowdfunding sites themselves maintain HUGE newsletter lists and use very advanced analytics to determine what to place in those newsletters. 2. For campaigners, the size and activity of your email list is a huge factor in determining your campaign success. Just like this web tool https://www.thunderclap.it/about sending a direct email blast to a good list can mean the diff…

> Just like this web tool https://www.thunderclap.it/about

This is not a "web tool", this is a spam tool.

> Sometimes people do want to be notified.

No they don't.

> Essentially therefore I'm arguing, the ability to gather a quality, targeted email list and generate a recurring newsletter without a 10%+ attrition rate [1] is both difficult and valuable.

The web is a beautiful dream. It's being destroyed by people that talk about "attrition rates" and "targeted whatever".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jemqAtxKyAo

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#44
post #39

From the perspective of crowdfunding 1. The crowdfunding sites themselves maintain HUGE newsletter lists and use very advanced analytics to determine what to place in those newsletters. 2. For campaigners, the size and activity of your email list is a huge factor in determining your campaign success. Just like this web tool https://www.thunderclap.it/about sending a direct email blast to a good list can mean the diff…

The author isn't opposed to newsletters at all, they're opposed to newsletter popups.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#47
Yes, I want to subscribe to your newsletter!

Automatically with a browser plugin, with an address that will even accept your mails. Unfortunately no human will read them in the end, but I'm sure your metrics will be great. I might even accept a cookie so you know I'm already subscribed to your great newsletter.

Now if everybody were to do that...

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#48

Yes it's annoying but they work: "sticking a big ole pop-up in their face can be one of the most effective ways to jolt their attention & grab their email for a return visit." Peep Laja. https://conversionxl.com/popup-defense/?hvid=2EcGFw

Yeah but you build an audience of idiots. I've only ever read one newsletter at a time. How many high functioning adults are going to signup to learn about marketing or sales tactics from some random blog or software company.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's about all user intent. Will you bring value? For you I'd advice experimenting with a pop-up when the user is about to leave. "A popup designed with exit-intent – in laymans terms it means that the popup only displays when you are about to leave the site." Results? "an increase of sign-ups by 600%. They went from typically 70-80 daily new subscribers to 445 – 470 new subs per day."

How would you go about detecting when a user is about to leave your site? Other than responding to a click on an external link? The two ways I typically leave a site are a) typing a URL into the address bar and b) closing a tab.

Thanks for the answers, everyone. I was mostly curious to see if the technique was to pause the page unload or something when the user tried to go to a different site (a dark pattern, IMO). I don't personally object to the cursor location and page scrolling techniques mentioned here.

Re: No, I Don’t Want to Subscribe to Your Newsletter

#50

I think Google is fighting this by giving a lower rank to pages that do this[1]. [1]: https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2016/08/helping-users-easi...

Gotta love it when Google claims to fight for the small guy. They are more like one of those vengeful comic villains who turn into absolute batshit psychos if rubbed the wrong way. At least with actual comic villains, you know what you did to incite their murderous rage.

You cannot link out without thinking twice, you cannot get links in without worrying about consequences, you grow at exactly the pace that pleases the gods over at the google-plex, and better think twice before you do any guest blogging, and remember the 200 ranking factors at play, and finally, never, ever, ever get on their wrong side.

Oh, and to keep it more fun, just wait till you need to stand in line someday for their customer support. That is a whole another level of batshit psycho crazy.

Why, Thank you, Google. Without you, what will the poor little people of the world do?

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