Is it ironic that the Romans were great wall builders too?
You started a flamewar from hell with this unsubstantive comment. Please don't throw lit matches around here again.
Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones tell a different story
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Refugees are the people that will help your descendants a few generations down the line when the tides have turned." Or you could increase your own birth rates, so your descendants can help your other descendants.
> Or you could increase your own birth rates, so your descendants can help your other descendants. Birth rates are a result, not an input.
They are both, obviously, and I didn't suggest it could be accomplished with the wave of a magic wand.
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#113I've seen forensics shows where the person was identified using oxygen isotopes in the water the person drank. I wonder how mixed up we are now with bottled water from Fiji, strontium in toothpaste and other weird non-local molecules. Cops talking "Hey Frank He's from Fiji but seems to have lived in Siberia too."
I would love to see a cop procedural where all the science keeps leading them to the wrong conclusion.
I presume it is easiest to write it as a comedy, but might be pulled off as a drama too.
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#114Surprise, surprise. Propaganda and "fake news" existed during Romans' time, too.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would you consider 'respect your culture'? I've lived in Canada, I did not notice any culture that I should respect other than to learn the language and obey the laws. In other countries that I've lived in (Poland, Romania) it was much the same. And that's being an atheist in countries that were fairly religious. Do you want refugees to start acting like the locals in every respect? Do you want them to start wea…
Actually, I think there is a strong culture in Canada and the United States that in each case is a testament to their political and economic success. In the case of the U.S. that culture would be the WASPy social ethic of the original elites, which was carried forward until recently. That's more Puritan in New England, less so in Virginia, and non-existent in the Deep South. I'd call it the protestant work ethic, but…
i nominate you to run for office
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#116The Fall of Rome podcast had a really interesting episode on The Huns: https://m.soundcloud.com/fallofromepodcast/fall-of-rome-epis... He makes the argument that in the later Roman Empire, the Huns treated the Roman Empire as either a vassal or a buffer state to their own empire. They demanded tribute from them and even forced the romans to chase down and return refugees. It's really interesting to look at the Roman…
Speaking of Scythia - somewhat bizarrely Scottish legends claim that the Scots were originally from there! "They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the…
The legendary early settlers of Ireland, the Nemedians (who would have later settled Scotland) came from Scythia:
"Nemed, ... was the son of Agnoman of Scythia..."
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speaking of Scythia - somewhat bizarrely Scottish legends claim that the Scots were originally from there! "They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the…
The legendary early settlers of Ireland, the Nemedians (who would have later settled Scotland) came from Scythia: "Nemed, ... was the son of Agnoman of Scythia..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemed
Interesting that they talk about their predecessors completely dying out. There was a fascinating Time Team special where they mentioned that Britain has had seven completely separate waves of inhabitants - with the predecessors apparently all dying out.
Probably a coincidence though as the timescales won't match up but fascinating to even consider that there was some historical truth behind those old myths.
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#118I've seen forensics shows where the person was identified using oxygen isotopes in the water the person drank. I wonder how mixed up we are now with bottled water from Fiji, strontium in toothpaste and other weird non-local molecules. Cops talking "Hey Frank He's from Fiji but seems to have lived in Siberia too."
Fun fact: for radiocarbon dating and similar techniques, when something is identified as from "ten thousand years before now," "now" is defined as January 1st, 1950. Anything past that date is too screwed up compared to historical trends to use standard archaeology on.
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#119.
Most terrorist acts in the U.S. are committed by white people, and the people pushing to make their religion the basis of law are also Christians, not Muslims. Your statements have no basis in facts or data, which leads me to suspect plain old racism.
Most terrorist acts in the U.S. are committed by white people
By death count? Even if this is so, there are vastly more white people in the US. What's important are the per capita numbers.
and the people pushing to make their religion the basis of law are also Christians, not Muslims.
Why would you expect Muslims to try to impose their law on a society when they haven't got anywhere near the political power to succeed? How dumb do you think they are? The important questions are whether they'd try to impose their religion if they had much more political clout, and what the outcome of a successful imposition would be for the people here (hint: not awesome).
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#120Wow. What a weak article. It basically tells nothing other than the fact that the Huns were people (we knew that) and that different people may lead different lives (we knew that also).
I was thinking the same thing. As someone who spent a lot of his PhD time with Late Antiquity as a secondary area of specialization, I can say that an enormous amount of this is "duh". It does not uproot the commonly accepted research by any stretch.
I'm sure most popular press articles are "duh" if you have PhD in the field or a closely related field ...