So, they weren't barbarians because some of them farmed? Seems to be a rather low bar.
...and Romans were drinking Soylent and sending probes to Mars?
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#52Looks like racism in Europe haven't evolved much. Europeans are human rest is animal.
The number of downvotes will reveal how many are disconnected from the fact that racism raising (once again) in Europe.
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#53Is it ironic that the Romans were great wall builders too?
But their primary defense was offense. The Roman response to true enemy was always "kill them all, man woman and child". That's why they genocided Carthage, the Gauls, destroyed Israel, massacred rebelling slaves in Sicily and lined the roads from Campania to Rome with crucified rebels. To bring in a modern political analogy is stupid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appian_Way#The_crucifixion_of_...
To be completely honest, that's what everyone was doing back then. The Romans were just better at it and all things considered they were quite benevolent as far as empires go.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a bit of a problem, but 'you break it, you own it' is a good rule. See also: Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and a very large number of other places where proxy wars between western states and meddling in local affairs in order to gain the upper hand in veiled conflicts over resources have made the world a much worse place for a very large number of people.
Our elites broke it, I don't understand why plain civilians like you have to own it. Why do you feel responsible for those wars? Why do you feel like you have to pay the toll for it? Honest questions.
Americans supported the government and military which waged those wars. Americans absolutely do own the result, morally and financially.
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#55.
Most terrorist acts in the U.S. are committed by white people, and the people pushing to make their religion the basis of law are also Christians, not Muslims. Your statements have no basis in facts or data, which leads me to suspect plain old racism.
Islam is not a race. Also, an act of terror by someone that just happens to be Christian is completely different than an act by someone doing it in the name of a religion, like Islam.
"plain old racism"
It's not racist to recognize patterns. You can't even draw Muhammad without getting death threats or even killed. The same can't be said about Jesus. The majority of the major terror attacks in the last 10 years have been done in the name of Islam.
I also find it odd that the progressives in the US are all for women and gay rights. Yet, as soon as you have a Muslim majority, these are the first to go.
People like you are the reason it will just continue to happen. A barbaric religion and culture allowed to destroy our way of life because you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
I suspect something similar happened to the Roman empire.
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#56So, they weren't barbarians because some of them farmed? Seems to be a rather low bar.
> Some bones suggested that the individual was born into a roaming tribe but later settled down; others indicated the opposite lifestyle change. Not sure what history Susanne Hakenbeck studies, but asiatic hersdmen populations in Eastern Europe have a long documented history of looting for slaves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean%E2%80%93Nogai_raids_in... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devshirme
If your argument is correct US and European slave trade in 19th and 20th century shows us what?
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#57Wow. What a weak article. It basically tells nothing other than the fact that the Huns were people (we knew that) and that different people may lead different lives (we knew that also).
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#58.
Most terrorist acts in the U.S. are committed by white people, and the people pushing to make their religion the basis of law are also Christians, not Muslims. Your statements have no basis in facts or data, which leads me to suspect plain old racism.
Gee, it is almost like white people make up a huge part of the population. Apply a little Bayes Theorem and visit back when you've run the numbers.
Also, fwiw, Islam is not a race, hence you can't be racist for criticizing it. It is an ideological system. In that way it is no different than Democracy, Communism, Buddhism, Capitalism, Mormonism, Anarchism, etc, etc. Race doesn't define any of those ideologies either. In a free society we must be allowed to criticize ideas.
I'm allowed to criticize Islamism and its practices and beliefs. I'm also allowed to criticize Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, et al. However only one of these ideologies regularly/commonly threatens to kill (and actually will kill) people who leave the faith. Only one of these ideologies has a large constituency who condones the intentional targeting of innocent civilians. It isn't a majority, but it isn't a fringe 1% either. Pew Research Surveys show the number to be 20-30% of these practitioners worldwide. (http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi...)
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Our elites broke it, I don't understand why plain civilians like you have to own it. Why do you feel responsible for those wars? Why do you feel like you have to pay the toll for it? Honest questions.
Don't you get to vote where you live?
I get to vote but, in democracy, we are a drop in the ocean.
In any case what's done is done, and if we've already waged war on them, it makes no sense to open our borders to them because most of them are bitter at us and some of them want to and have succeeded in killing us in our own soil. It's simply a security issue.
There are millions of Muslims now scattered everywhere in Europe, and these last attacks are simply the beginning. Now Erdogan can threaten us because he has a dormant army everywhere. And we let them in, like a trojan horse.
(I'm European)
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#60.
What would you consider 'respect your culture'? I've lived in Canada, I did not notice any culture that I should respect other than to learn the language and obey the laws. In other countries that I've lived in (Poland, Romania) it was much the same. And that's being an atheist in countries that were fairly religious. Do you want refugees to start acting like the locals in every respect? Do you want them to start wea…
"Refugees are the people that will help your descendants a few generations down the line when the tides have turned."
Or you could increase your own birth rates, so your descendants can help your other descendants.