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Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by kamjam » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:15 AM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #314

sah2ed wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: if Microsoft didn't bundle IE and the user hadn't received a copy of those ubiquitous AOL CD-ROMs which came in the mail/magazines (and sometimes carried the Netscape Navigator installer), how is the user expected to consume content on the web without a web browser? Surely, you'll at least need a decent web browser to get online to download a different browser of your choice, no?

> if Microsoft didn't bundle IE and the user hadn't received a copy of those ubiquitous AOL CD-ROMs which came in the mail/magazines (and sometimes carried the Netscape Navigator installer), how is the user expected to consume content on the web without a web browser? Go to store, by a CD with browser, install. The age when boxed software was a major thing extended past the point when IE started bundling IE. Of cours…

As a user who has just bought their first computer, would you a) like to go to the shop and spend money to buy more software b) try to figure out this thing called FTP, maybe going to the library to read up on it even though you have never heard of it so don't know what you are looking for c) just use this thing called "Internet Explorer" that sounds like what you want to do, is free and already installed on the computer you just turned on for the first time?

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by minitech » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:28 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #343

AsyncAwait wrote: post #302

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But they're not supporting an OS, but a browser here. If it works in Firefox on Windows, there's no technical reason for it not to work the same way in Firefox on Linux.

Yeah there's no reason at all that anything would work differently in one browser or another, signed, a guy who has never done Web development.

Again: operating system, not browser.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by spinlock » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:29 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #199

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #155

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It may be funny, but at the same time it's great to see this kind of feedback directly from the customers to the company. If someone listens up there, sooner or later they'll realize there is more money in the subscription business than in one-time OS purchases, and they will put the money where the mouth is.

I'm guessing (especially when you consider that OS X is in there) that it has more to do with the support burden and small number of people using Linux as a desktop OS than trying to get people to buy Windows.

If you're writing apps that work in i.e. And not chrome you're not going for a big user base. I.e. Is 2% of our traffic and 50% of my time.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by spinlock » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:29 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #199

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be funny, but at the same time it's great to see this kind of feedback directly from the customers to the company. If someone listens up there, sooner or later they'll realize there is more money in the subscription business than in one-time OS purchases, and they will put the money where the mouth is.

I'm guessing (especially when you consider that OS X is in there) that it has more to do with the support burden and small number of people using Linux as a desktop OS than trying to get people to buy Windows.

If you're writing apps that work in i.e. And not chrome you're not going for a big user base. I.e. Is 2% of our traffic and 50% of my time.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by jacquesm » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:33 AM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #372

jacquesm wrote: post #369

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Except that it works just fine if those 'unsupported' platforms are treated in the exact same way as the supported ones. To make it seem as if a whole pile of work was done in order to make unsupported platforms work less well but this is a good thing is something that I find very hard to reconcile. And if this were a company that did not have a history of exactly such tricks it might be more believable, MS - with me…

How thoroughly do you figure that guy posting the question tested it compared to whatever QA process MS does for supported platforms?

Good enough to detect a problem.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by spinlock » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:41 AM UTC

kamjam wrote: post #381

dragonwriter wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if Microsoft didn't bundle IE and the user hadn't received a copy of those ubiquitous AOL CD-ROMs which came in the mail/magazines (and sometimes carried the Netscape Navigator installer), how is the user expected to consume content on the web without a web browser? Go to store, by a CD with browser, install. The age when boxed software was a major thing extended past the point when IE started bundling IE. Of cours…

As a user who has just bought their first computer, would you a) like to go to the shop and spend money to buy more software b) try to figure out this thing called FTP, maybe going to the library to read up on it even though you have never heard of it so don't know what you are looking for c) just use this thing called "Internet Explorer" that sounds like what you want to do, is free and already installed on the comp…

You're talking about an era when Gopher was still the dominant protocol on the internet.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by spinlock » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:41 AM UTC

kamjam wrote: post #381

dragonwriter wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if Microsoft didn't bundle IE and the user hadn't received a copy of those ubiquitous AOL CD-ROMs which came in the mail/magazines (and sometimes carried the Netscape Navigator installer), how is the user expected to consume content on the web without a web browser? Go to store, by a CD with browser, install. The age when boxed software was a major thing extended past the point when IE started bundling IE. Of cours…

As a user who has just bought their first computer, would you a) like to go to the shop and spend money to buy more software b) try to figure out this thing called FTP, maybe going to the library to read up on it even though you have never heard of it so don't know what you are looking for c) just use this thing called "Internet Explorer" that sounds like what you want to do, is free and already installed on the comp…

You're talking about an era when Gopher was still the dominant protocol on the internet.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by userbinator » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:41 AM UTC

Isn't Onedrive just Microsoft's cloud storage service? I haven't used it before, but is this implying that a web file manager is slow? Feature detection or not, regardless of OS, I think an application of this nature just shouldn't be slow at all on any computer 5 years old or less.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by spinlock » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:41 AM UTC

mohaine wrote: post #310

sah2ed wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: if Microsoft didn't bundle IE and the user hadn't received a copy of those ubiquitous AOL CD-ROMs which came in the mail/magazines (and sometimes carried the Netscape Navigator installer), how is the user expected to consume content on the web without a web browser? Surely, you'll at least need a decent web browser to get online to download a different browser of your choice, no?

There is no need for a browser to download something from the internet. You only need the browser to browse the internet. (hence the name) A simple UI with a list of options was all that was needed.

The web is not the internet

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by kbenson » Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 1:43 AM UTC

kamjam wrote: post #381

dragonwriter wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if Microsoft didn't bundle IE and the user hadn't received a copy of those ubiquitous AOL CD-ROMs which came in the mail/magazines (and sometimes carried the Netscape Navigator installer), how is the user expected to consume content on the web without a web browser? Go to store, by a CD with browser, install. The age when boxed software was a major thing extended past the point when IE started bundling IE. Of cours…

As a user who has just bought their first computer, would you a) like to go to the shop and spend money to buy more software b) try to figure out this thing called FTP, maybe going to the library to read up on it even though you have never heard of it so don't know what you are looking for c) just use this thing called "Internet Explorer" that sounds like what you want to do, is free and already installed on the comp…

Keep in mind, many people with a computer might not have the internet at all during this period. Purchasing internet service usually came with software to use it.