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Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by hashkb »

Keverw wrote: post #135
glogla wrote: post #6

I have to admit, the whole exchange is pretty funny: > Hello, Onedrive for Business open is very slow on Linux (Chrome/Firefox) but with very fast with a "Windows" user-agent. > Hi DL, As Office 365 for Business services(e.g. SharePoint Online, including OneDrive for Business, Exchange Online) are not supported on Linux as shown below, for the best experience, we recommend the operating system listed in the article.…

I found that interesting too. I'm not familiar with office 365, but isn't it web based? So why does it matter what browser or OS you use?

Just MS up to its old (classic) tricks.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by mod »

gjjrfcbugxbhf wrote: post #126
easytiger wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a linux user since the 90s, googling for basic issues on Windows is an unmitigated disaster. For linux I have always got a correct answer.

I don't know about that - with (especially desktop) Linux one has to be quite specific to get an up to date solution. There's been a lot of churn in the stack in last decade (i think the stack is much improved as a result).

Yes. Ubuntu, you'd better be including a version.

Arch? You need to make sure you're not looking at something a decade old.

I often just scope my google search.

Also, I do not find that I can answer every question easily for linux, even though I've used it as my primary OS since ~2002 and have some idea what to google for.

In fact, I have both sound and bluetooth issues on my machine right now that I have given up trying to resolve.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by diggan »

Keverw wrote: post #135
glogla wrote: post #6

I have to admit, the whole exchange is pretty funny: > Hello, Onedrive for Business open is very slow on Linux (Chrome/Firefox) but with very fast with a "Windows" user-agent. > Hi DL, As Office 365 for Business services(e.g. SharePoint Online, including OneDrive for Business, Exchange Online) are not supported on Linux as shown below, for the best experience, we recommend the operating system listed in the article.…

I found that interesting too. I'm not familiar with office 365, but isn't it web based? So why does it matter what browser or OS you use?

If the one creating a product also creates a OS, making that product run faster on your OS compared to others makes your OS look better I guess.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

#154

Post by sqeaky »

cookiecaper wrote: post #122
mtgx wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Behold the "new" Microsoft, same as the old Microsoft.

Microsoft's cash cow has always been Windows, and secondarily, Office. That directed their decisions then and it directs their decisions now. The landscape may change such that Microsoft feels it is beneficial to release things like .NET Core as open-source, but this doesn't reflect a change in what Microsoft values ("A PC on every desk running Microsoft software" and the associated revenue streams), it reflects a ch…

Saying "its a business decision" doesn't justify unethical and potentially illegal behavior. This is either incompetence or malice. If it is malice it falls well on the wrong side antitrust behavior. If its incompetence, well it isn't much better is it?

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

glogla wrote: post #6

I have to admit, the whole exchange is pretty funny: > Hello, Onedrive for Business open is very slow on Linux (Chrome/Firefox) but with very fast with a "Windows" user-agent. > Hi DL, As Office 365 for Business services(e.g. SharePoint Online, including OneDrive for Business, Exchange Online) are not supported on Linux as shown below, for the best experience, we recommend the operating system listed in the article.…

It may be funny, but at the same time it's great to see this kind of feedback directly from the customers to the company. If someone listens up there, sooner or later they'll realize there is more money in the subscription business than in one-time OS purchases, and they will put the money where the mouth is.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by endisukaj »

gjjrfcbugxbhf wrote: post #126
easytiger wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a linux user since the 90s, googling for basic issues on Windows is an unmitigated disaster. For linux I have always got a correct answer.

I don't know about that - with (especially desktop) Linux one has to be quite specific to get an up to date solution. There's been a lot of churn in the stack in last decade (i think the stack is much improved as a result).

I've been using Linux for the past 6 years (on and off only the first two of those) and I have never had this happen to me. Maybe when I was using Ubuntu it was harder to find good answers that were not specific to someone else's usecase because of the nature of Ubuntu forums.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by Twisell »

herbst wrote: post #128
lgessler wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if MS has earned the benefit of my doubt, but it's conceivable that the software could have implemented platform-specific behavior or optimizations that ended up slowing things down for some reason.

Yeah after reading some other comments (also on reddit) the idea that they push fixes platform specific and linux just defaults to a state with many missing fixes sounds like a reasonable option.

So they supposedly maintain duplicate version of core functions in plateform specific branch and never merge them to master...

That would only be slightly less worse than the sabotaging theory.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by diggan »

snackai wrote: post #115
rplnt wrote: post #92

Google is doing this with many of their products. And has been for many, many years. Limiting features, blocking services, etc... based solely on user agent.

Any source for that claim?

Inbox when first launched was only available on Chrome and blocked other browsers via user-agent. However, if you were using Firefox and changed the user-agent to Chrome, everything worked fine.

Re: Onedrive is slow on Linux but fast with a “Windows” user-agent (2016)

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Post by cname »

rorosaurus wrote: post #77
nkkollaw wrote: post #56

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Definitely. The guy would've probably gotten fired if he was honest: "that almost looks like it was done on purpose to force people to use Windows", but he could have avoided completely dismissing the guy. For instance, by saying: "thanks for reporting this, I'll pass this to the tech team. In the meantime you can keep using your solution if it solves the problem for you". It's probably hard for a huge company to giv…

"never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

This lets people get away with playing dumb.

Maybe it's not wise to automatically assume malice if incompetence could be a factor, but it's also not correct to rule out malice just because incompetence is a possible explanation.

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