This only works because of DRM infecting web standards. Thanks for hurting the web, Netflix.
Let's give credit where credit is due: the EME proposal was jointly authored by Netflix, Microsoft, and Google: https://www.w3.org/TR/encrypted-media/
Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
They did not put DRM into web standards. They put an open interface into web standards that can be used to interface to third party DRM, but could also be used for non-DRM purposes.
That's just playing word games. Netflix lobbied for EME so they could serve DRM'd video, end of story.
Netflix wouldn't be a viable business if not for DRM. Why is everyone so upset? Having the option to use DRM in native web APIs is not a bad thing.
Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix
#23Does this use Firefox's super-sandboxed Adobe CDM module [0]? [0] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/05/12/update-on-digital-r...
It may use Google's Widevine, since Firefox recently started supporting it.
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#24This only works because of DRM infecting web standards. Thanks for hurting the web, Netflix.
What Netflix is doing that hurts the web is opposing net neutrality now that they're big enough they can bargain for special treatment.
This—on the other hand—provides a replacement for use cases which used poorly-supported, insecure, and battery-hungry proprietary plugins. I run Safari with no extensions and having this for Netflix and Amazon is fantastic. I trust Apple to patch security vulnerabilities and the browser is auto-updated along with the rest of my system. Not having to worry about Flash zero-days is more important to me than some purity argument about what the W3C should be doing.
If you seriously think VoD services were going to operate using standards without DRM in place I'm not sure you'll find many productive conversations on this topic. The web has been dead for some time and Netflix had very little to do with that.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's just playing word games. Netflix lobbied for EME so they could serve DRM'd video, end of story.
Netflix wouldn't be a viable business if not for DRM. Why is everyone so upset? Having the option to use DRM in native web APIs is not a bad thing.
>Netflix wouldn't be a viable business if not for DRM.
Uber wouldn't be a viable business model if it didn't exploit drivers and dodge laws that apply to taxis.
Airbnb wouldn't be a viable business model if it didn't sidestep hotel laws.
If your business depends on having unjust power over your customers then you ought to go out of business.
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#26Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.
When the choice is between proprietary apps or DRM for multimedia content inside open web environment, I'd rather have the latter.
Yes, in ideal world there will be DRM-free streaming - but unfortunately that's unrealistic.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be better if the platforms that wanted DRM just made their own damn desktop apps, just like they make their own iOS apps, Android apps, Roku apps, smart tv apps, etc. There's no reason for them to be embedded in a browser.
The irony is that Netflix does have a desktop application as well.
Not for Linux and I know first had that the Windows Store one is complete garbage because I really wanted it to work. The Hulu one is just as bad.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be better if the platforms that wanted DRM just made their own damn desktop apps, just like they make their own iOS apps, Android apps, Roku apps, smart tv apps, etc. There's no reason for them to be embedded in a browser.
The irony is that Netflix does have a desktop application as well.
This is mostly a side effect of their development efforts for Xbox and Windows 10 Mobile.
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#29This only works because of DRM infecting web standards. Thanks for hurting the web, Netflix.
What Netflix is doing that hurts the web is opposing net neutrality now that they're big enough they can bargain for special treatment. This—on the other hand—provides a replacement for use cases which used poorly-supported, insecure, and battery-hungry proprietary plugins. I run Safari with no extensions and having this for Netflix and Amazon is fantastic. I trust Apple to patch security vulnerabilities and the brow…
You're not getting EME extensions from Apple, you're getting them from the third-party that developed the extensions. You can count on terrible security vulnerabilities being found in these.
Movies aren't important. Netflix isn't important. The open web, the ideology (or as you put it pejoratively, "purity") behind it, is important.
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#30I hope this means the end of Silverlight on the desktop - as it is still required for Amazon Video and NOW TV (in the UK at least).