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Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

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Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#11

Post by noir_lord »

jasonmp85 wrote: post #3
cyborgx7 wrote: post #2

Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.

Yes, the world was better when Flash and Silverlight were the media of choice for delivering video.

That wasn't his central point I don't think, also Flash and Silverlight where largely beaten by the Open Web because they never got the adoption sufficient to rival it.

So instead they lobbied for it to be built in, the day will come when view source won't work anymore because everything fed down will protected by DRM and we moved another step closer to turning the web into a gigantic walled garden for whoever the incumbents are at that point in time.

Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#12

Post by jasonkostempski »

jasonmp85 wrote: post #3
cyborgx7 wrote: post #2

Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.

Yes, the world was better when Flash and Silverlight were the media of choice for delivering video.

It would be better if the platforms that wanted DRM just made their own damn desktop apps, just like they make their own iOS apps, Android apps, Roku apps, smart tv apps, etc. There's no reason for them to be embedded in a browser.

Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#13

Post by [deleted] »

jasonmp85 wrote: post #3
cyborgx7 wrote: post #2

Translation: Netflix successfully lobied DRM into what is supposed to be the OPEN web standard, to the point where even Firefox couldn't afford not to support it. Dark days for the free exchange of information enabled by the web.

Yes, the world was better when Flash and Silverlight were the media of choice for delivering video.

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Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#14

Post by tzs »

davexunit wrote: post #6

This only works because of DRM infecting web standards. Thanks for hurting the web, Netflix.

They did not put DRM into web standards. They put an open interface into web standards that can be used to interface to third party DRM, but could also be used for non-DRM purposes.

Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

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Post by SwellJoe »

I don't like DRM, but I like binging Netflix in a corner on my laptop while I work. I've been doing it for years using Chrome with a fake user-agent to fool Netflix into thinking I'm on Windows (apparently that hasn't been needed for some time?) So...I'm torn, I guess. I'm glad Linux/Firefox can Netflix, but I'd like it if web standards were open and not patent encumbered.

I guess it's a political issue and not a technical one, and I doubt Netflix care all that much (I believe the content creators are the ones who insisted on DRM for Netflix to stream). Then again, now that Netflix is creating a lot of their own content, they might be evil on that front, too (as they're evil on net neutrality now that they are in a position of strength).

Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#17

Post by davexunit »

tzs wrote: post #14
davexunit wrote: post #6

This only works because of DRM infecting web standards. Thanks for hurting the web, Netflix.

They did not put DRM into web standards. They put an open interface into web standards that can be used to interface to third party DRM, but could also be used for non-DRM purposes.

That's just playing word games. Netflix lobbied for EME so they could serve DRM'd video, end of story.

Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#18

Post by sp332 »

zeveb wrote: post #8

Remarkably, I get a 'Secure Connection Failed' from Firefox on Linux when attempting to view the blog entry.

Are you using HTTPS Finder or a similar add-on? The blog isn't hosted with TLS and the link is to a plain HTTP URL, so I'm not sure why your browser tried to load a nonexistent HTTPS version of the page.

Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

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Post by [deleted] »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #12
jasonmp85 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the world was better when Flash and Silverlight were the media of choice for delivering video.

It would be better if the platforms that wanted DRM just made their own damn desktop apps, just like they make their own iOS apps, Android apps, Roku apps, smart tv apps, etc. There's no reason for them to be embedded in a browser.

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Re: Update on HTML5 Video for Netflix

#20

Post by mtgx »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #12
jasonmp85 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the world was better when Flash and Silverlight were the media of choice for delivering video.

It would be better if the platforms that wanted DRM just made their own damn desktop apps, just like they make their own iOS apps, Android apps, Roku apps, smart tv apps, etc. There's no reason for them to be embedded in a browser.

The irony is that Netflix does have a desktop application as well.
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