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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by chii »

grrowl wrote: post #522
alasdair_ wrote: post #317

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I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

Only nerds can keep up with which is the "canonical" Android. All my non-tech friends have Samsung, LG, HTC, or Sony phones. The nerds have Nexus or Google phones.

which is just poor advertising and marketing from google. If they did the same amount and effort in marketing the nexus devices (or for god's sake, just call them google phones!), it will become a brand that can rival apple's.

Now, of course, google perhaps don't want that to happen, since the other big manufacturers will not like it, and that marketing isn't their core business.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by gvurrdon »

dboreham wrote: post #482
dmix wrote: post #147

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It's quite obvious the Pixel is the "flagship" Android Google phone. And Pixel C is the "flagship" Android tablet. The pixel is advertised everywhere as a Google phone. Who makes it doesn't really come up in their product communication much. And the 'flagship' label is literally in the title of the Pixel products on Amazon. And on the website it's called "Pixel, phone by Google". > People buy a low end Android phone…

Everyone knows that Flagship is a cheese.

I've not heard of the cheese, but the beer is very good:

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/HO...

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by philfrasty »

Anyone actually uses an iPad excessively? I owned 2 (non retina then retina mini) and it has been the least used Apple product over the last 25 years for me.

- Looks great in marketing/ads

- Want to read? Naaah too uncomfortable to hold

- Want to work? Naaah working on a touch-device is no fun

- Want to play? Naaah got a gaming-console for that

- Want some music? Naaah got my iPhone

- Everything else: iPhone

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by reitanqild »

mpd wrote: post #520
jbangert wrote: post #490

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Car companies (at least European ones) tend to be pretty transparent about this: - Audi (example): letter (car/SUV/race car)+ number (quality: 1-cheap, 8-luxury) - BMW: first number is a quality class, two numbers is the Engine size. - Mercedes: first letter is a quality class, number is the engine. Other luxury consumer goods use pretty similar schemes, e.g. Audio gear (e.g. bang + olufsen: the higher the number the…

> Audi (example): letter (car/SUV/race car)+ number (quality: 1-cheap, 8-luxury) - BMW: first number is a quality class, two numbers is the Engine size. - Mercedes: first letter is a quality class, number is the engine. You need to already know the brand to know this. > (quality: 1-cheap, 8-luxury) How high does it go? If they decide to turn it up to 11 tomorrow, is 8 still "luxury"? I can't agree that this sort of v…

There's going to be a minimum set of knowledge required to understand these versioning schemes.

Growing up in Europe seems to be enough wrt to Audi.

I'm not interested in cars but I have still picked this up somehow. Same with BMW.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by reitanqild »

moonbug wrote: post #477
squeaky-clean wrote: post #454

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I've actually been saying this since the 3G came out, so we sort of agree. I thought that was the start of the stupidest naming convention, and we're all just watching it get worse throughout the years. At least until the 6 they weren't releasing multiple phones at the same time. I'm just waiting for "iPhone 10, iPhone 10 Plus, iPhone 10 Air, iPhone 10 Air Plus, iPhone 10 Pro, iPhone 10 Pro Plus, iPhone SE 3, iPhone…

> Why would you not know this for an expensive device requiring maintenance? Because when it breaks or needs maintenance they take it to a garage like any normal person.

I guess you didn't plan on labeling a whole lot of people as not normal? ;-)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Spooky23 »

nkkollaw wrote: post #239
squeaky-clean wrote: post #222

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> "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. It's also a smaller phone, just like how the Plus is larger and costs more, but isn't any faster. The name or price of SE doesn't imply lower end at all, they've even removed the number so you don't know which one it's comparable to. I agree it's not awful, just that it's slippi…

I don't know, I tried switching to PCs for a while, I couldn't get how their naming works. I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/

Computers are easy. Try figuring out business printers. My colleague who was leading the effort was ready to gouge out his eyes.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by apricot »

giarc wrote: post #125
apricot wrote: post #98

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"Could not find what's new. Any hints ?" This sums up Apple's problems better than anything I've seen.

It's because their naming conventions have gone out the window. When it was iPhone 4, 4S, 5, 5S you knew where on the product timeline your phone was. Now it's iPad Air, Air 2, 9.7 Pro, 9.7, 12.9 Pro, mini 4. It's all over the place.

When Jobs came back to Apple, there was a similar chaos regarding the Macintosh models. Lots of numbers, letters, and qualifiers, and the purpose of a new model was seldom clear.

He canceled the majority of them -- the "great extinction" of 1998 is plainly visible on the image at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Macintosh_models .

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ComputerGuru »

lando2319 wrote: post #516
xd1936 wrote: post #403

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iPad iPad 2 The new iPad (with Retina display) The new iPad (with Retina display) (again) iPad Air iPad Air 2 iPad Pro iPad (announced today)

I believe this one the "IPad 9.7" replaces the "IPad Air"

We are a bunch of hackers and even we are not sure/can't get this right.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ComputerGuru »

nkkollaw wrote: post #169
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

It's still not that bad. It's always a version number (ex., 7), the following version they add an 'S' (ex., 7S), then the following version they will increase the version number (ex., 8). "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. I currently own a Huawei Y6II, which I read is a clone of the P9. No idea what it means, what…

iPhone is OK. Now explain iPad to me.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by JohnBooty »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

What? I had exactly the opposite reaction. Since this replaces the iPad Air, to me this is a return to sanity.

- iPad Pro - iPad - iPad Mini

This seems ideal.

If you are a "Pro" you surely don't mind spending a few minutes looking up the differences of the "Pro" model to see if it's something you need.

If you are not a "Pro" your choices are now, Do I want the regular one or the mini one?

Previously non-pros were faced with the conceptually bizarre choice of *Do I want the air one or the mini one?" which sounds like the ramblings of a crazy person.

Like... "Air" and "Mini"... what a weird choice. They both sound like super-portable models. OK. But... super-portable compared to... what, exactly? There were no "regular" models, only "variants." What were they varying from?

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