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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ericabiz »

Kurtz79 wrote: post #184
throwanem wrote: post #88

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Or, in my case, a YouTube player comfortable enough to use in bed. I had such plans - a laptop replacement, a smart drawing and writing tablet, a conveniently portable development tool...none of which came to fruition, because the technology wasn't yet there. I'm a little tempted, now, by the iPad Pro and the Pencil. It sure would be more comfortable and convenient to retouch photos that way than with a mouse or a tr…

"Or, in my case, a YouTube player comfortable enough to use in bed." In my case Youtube, Netflix, Twitch, as well as web browsing. And also "everywhere I move about in the house", not only in bed. I have zero use for it as a "productive" tool, but it's the best media consumption device I ever had, it has replaced my laptop for every use aside from creative/office work and gaming. It doesn't do everything, but for wha…

You could just get the screen fixed on your Air 2. They run $180-200 to fix right now (search for a local independent repair shop in your area.)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Touche »

cortesoft wrote: post #391
Touche wrote: post #372

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I've never heard such a confusion when it comes to TV purchases. Life is imperfect and changing products require a little research. You can't just go to the store and buy the best socks either; if you want the best you got to do research. Thems the breaks.

Well, thems WASN'T the breaks with Apple for a long time, and they did quite well. The person you replied to was trying to make the argument that a vendor can sell more product if they make the hierarchy of quality more clear to the consumer. Saying 'things are imperfect, as a consumer you just have to deal with it' doesn't really address his argument.

It addresses it with counter examples that indicate that a "hierarchy of quality" is not something that really exists in consumer products. The fact that so many companies chose not to make the hierarchy clear is an indication that such a hierarchy isn't valuable to them.

Look at the luxury car sector. https://www.audiusa.com/models#sedans/ Can you tell the quality by its naming convention? I can't. I can sort of assume some quality hierarchy by the price though.

The fact that Apple has abandoned the "one phone, one tablet" model indicates to me that it hasn't been a valuable strategy for them.

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Post by xd1936 »

mulletbum wrote: post #335
alasdair_ wrote: post #317

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I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.

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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by tbrock »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #143
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

Higher numbers are newer/better, everyone on the planet understands this.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by fbonetti »

coldtea wrote: post #79
anjc wrote: post #52

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Using an iPad (with external keyboard) to even type a simple document is an exercise in masochism. Fair play if you enjoyed it, but something like a Surface makes far more sense for these types of uses.

> Using an iPad (with external keyboard) to even type a simple document is an exercise in masochism. What exactly is the frustration from it? I find it perfectly fine, if not better than using a laptop for writing "simple documents". In fact that's exactly the use case most pro writers that use an iPad use it for.

This was a few years ago, so it may no longer apply, but my biggest frustration was that none of my keyboard shortcuts worked. I like to toggle between the browser and my code editor while I code, and the only way I could do that was to physically swipe the screen with my hand. There was a workaround to enable certain shortcuts by turning on accessibility mode, but it was a huge hack and didn't work that well.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by greedo »

rebootthesystem wrote: post #142

It sure feels like Apple is getting desperate. Not sure what's going on. I know this is a single data point but just a few days we went to our local Apple store. It wasn't quite empty but it was nowhere near as busy as it was, say, a year ago. No buzz. At my personal level, we have not updated our iPads and iPods for a number of years. Don't plan to. I still have a 4S. I have disliked everything Apple has done since…

You're complaining about an almost 6 year old smartphone being sluggish with iOS updates. And then complaining because Apple is requiring you to update your app. Ironically, the reason that discoverability in the App Store is so bad is because it's filled with abandonware apps where the devs don't update to fit with the newer versions of iOS. I think that's what my dad used to call chutzpah.

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Post by pkamb »

chrissnell wrote: post #217
emdowling wrote: post #121

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It is hard to see Apple keeping the mini around for much longer. I assume they are simply running down stock and will remove it soon, before end of the year.

I doubt it. The Mini is a great tablet for little kids. It's just the right size for toddlers and they can still hold it even when you put an Otterbox Defender on it.

I think people are finding that hand-me-down iPads and cheap trash tablets from Amazon are the best tablets for little kids.

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Post by Thriptic »

simonh wrote: post #97
anjc wrote: post #52

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Using an iPad (with external keyboard) to even type a simple document is an exercise in masochism. Fair play if you enjoyed it, but something like a Surface makes far more sense for these types of uses.

Trying to use a Surface keyboard on my lap on a train sounds awkward, the trains I use don't have tables. I even find laptops ungainly and sometimes I don't get a seat, but I can still do pretty much anything on an iPad. I think my error rate is a bit higher than when using a real keyboard, but the alternative would be not being productive during that time at all. I'm an old duffer though, I remember using CPM machin…

> Trying to use a Surface keyboard on my lap on a train sounds awkward, the trains I use don't have tables

It's actually not that bad at all, believe it or not. I use the Pro 4 on my lap all the time. The Surface Book does not work in your lap based on what I have seen, but the Pro does fine.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Thriptic »

coldtea wrote: post #76
constantlm wrote: post #11

Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

Depends on the line of work and the hobbies of most people one knows. Given my line of work and hobbies, the iPads are very appreciated tools. For the average soccer mom or Joe Sixpack, not so much. At best they'd surf the web and social media on them.

> For the average soccer mom or Joe Sixpack, not so much. At best they'd surf the web and social media on them.

In my eyes this is where the device actually shines. Simple content consumption.

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Post by Lockyy »

austenallred wrote: post #380
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

While that's true, Apple grew to have a wide variety of products during Jobs' tenure as well. In 2007 there was the iPod Nano, Touch, Shuffle, and Classic, for example. So it may be that different times call for different strategies. Perhaps the lesson is that you should focus intensely in the beginning and ship varieties once the product has reached a certain level of maturity? I'm not in a place to say, but sometim…

The thing with the various iPods was that they were at least different.

The three iPad lines are all fundamentally the same device with differing screen sizes.

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