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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by jerkstate »

alasdair_ wrote: post #317
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

I had a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. Fool me once...

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by grrowl »

alasdair_ wrote: post #317
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

Only nerds can keep up with which is the "canonical" Android. All my non-tech friends have Samsung, LG, HTC, or Sony phones. The nerds have Nexus or Google phones.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by rconti »

pwthornton wrote: post #360
rconti wrote: post #359

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I am utterly confused. There was the iPad, then the Mini, then the Air, then the Pro.. and now I look at this, and 9.7" sounds fairly large ("normal" iPad size?) but the price is surprisingly cheap? No idea. closes window I've got about 6 tablets and never use any of them anyway. I hate the user experience. I see no case where I'd rather have a tablet than my phone or my 6 year old Macbook Air.

Surfing the Internet, reading ebooks and watching videos are all things an iPad would do much better, particularly anything that would benefit from a hiDPI screen.

I do miss the high DPI screen when using my old Air, that's a good point. Though I usually don't feel my internet surfing is enhanced by holding a heavy tablet.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by rconti »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #370
rconti wrote: post #359

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I am utterly confused. There was the iPad, then the Mini, then the Air, then the Pro.. and now I look at this, and 9.7" sounds fairly large ("normal" iPad size?) but the price is surprisingly cheap? No idea. closes window I've got about 6 tablets and never use any of them anyway. I hate the user experience. I see no case where I'd rather have a tablet than my phone or my 6 year old Macbook Air.

Why do you have 6 of them?

Always seems like a good idea? I've got an iPad2 that I really wanted to love, and used until it became so slow it was useless (a couple of years ago). It still sits on my kitchen counter as a plugged-in weather station, though the app crashes frequently.

I've got an HP Touchpad I bought during the fire sale for $50 or whatever the going rate was. I think its got Android on it. It was less of a fun project than I expected. Mostly I realized I don't like Android.

I've got a 7" Fire I bought at christmas for $30 but never use.

My wife's got a 7" Nexus she got as a gift but rarely used.

She's also got a Kindle she used to use occasionally.

Plus an iPad Air she uses quite a bit.

I'm pretty sure there's another tablet or two in there somewhere but nothing comes to mind.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by mulletbum »

yabatopia wrote: post #396
mulletbum wrote: post #335

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Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.

I agree Google has a terrible track record with naming products or services - although not as bad as Microsoft - but you're exagerrating a bit. The step from Nexus 6 tot Pixel isn't that difficult to understand (and you even forgot the Nexus 6P, the successor of the Nexus 6!). Car manufactures launch new models all the time, without much problems. If someone gets confused by such thing, maybe that person is better of…

My comment wasn't supposed to single out Android, but it seems that HN feels I did.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by tooFastFuckYou »

And I'll bet Apple still cluelessly cripples the non-cellular version by omitting (or disabling) GPS on it.

In a world where people are finally realizing that tablets are mostly pointless gimmicks, Apple still hasn't.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Chromus »

budde wrote: post #427
stanmancan wrote: post #293

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This is what happens when they don't have a "product" guy running the company anymore. Steve Jobs was brilliant at coming up with new products. Every since he left all we have gotten is the Apple Watch, which one can argue he probably had a hand in. Their only option now is to start creating variations of existing product lines to keep them "fresh".

> Steve Jobs was brilliant at coming up with new products By my count, Jobs shepherded the following hit products (I'm giving the Apple ][ to Woz): - Macintosh (1984) - iPod (2001) - iPhone (2007) - iPad (2010) I think you're exaggerating how often Apple rolled out new product lines under Jobs. You could even argue that the iPod and iPhone overshadow the other two substantially in terms of cultural impact. > Their on…

Maybe I'm misinformed, but those seem like the "definitive" Apple products to me. They're basically the foundation of their current business, and have only been diluted since his departure.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by simonh »

kenips wrote: post #474
simonh wrote: post #324

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Except there are two iPad Pro sizes and one of them is the same size as the new basic iPad 9.7'. And the iPad Mini is now more expensive than a basic iPad 9.7' but are slower, but only come in a large storage option. I love Apple. Read my other posts defending the iPad as a productivity device on this discussion, and defending the cleanness if the iPhone lineup, but the current iPad lineup is all over the place.

I think you're missing the rumours on the new 10.5" iPad Pro. Hold your judgement before that. What if the future product lines are only iPad and iPad Pro? With iPad at 7.9" and 9.7", iPad Pro at 10.5" and 12"? Many have said that the 10.5" iPad Pro would be the 12"'s resolution at 326 ppi, and I think thats reasonable.

If that were coming out any time soon, I'd have expected it to be launched alongside the other changes to the lineup. But adding my anityercscreen size option by itself does nothing to reduce the confusion in the current lineup.
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