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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by cortesoft »

Touche wrote: post #372
mulletbum wrote: post #335

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Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.

I've never heard such a confusion when it comes to TV purchases. Life is imperfect and changing products require a little research. You can't just go to the store and buy the best socks either; if you want the best you got to do research. Thems the breaks.

Well, thems WASN'T the breaks with Apple for a long time, and they did quite well.

The person you replied to was trying to make the argument that a vendor can sell more product if they make the hierarchy of quality more clear to the consumer. Saying 'things are imperfect, as a consumer you just have to deal with it' doesn't really address his argument.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by NocturnalWaffle »

woof wrote: post #290
knd775 wrote: post #271

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If it's on iOS 10, it's not an iPad 2. Also, the iPad 2 I got rid of like 4 years ago was horribly slow and pretty much useless at that point.

Correct, the oldest iPad running iOS 10 is the first Retina -aka iPad 4. I bought mine in 2012, still using it daily.

The first retina was actually the 3, which I have. I think the only upgrade in the 4 though was a switch to lightning. (Maybe some spec boosts)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by santaclaus »

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

I'm not a kid or a grandparent, and I love my iPad for reading and taking notes -- it's also great when traveling. A number of the artists at work who used to be cintiq freaks are now using iPads with Apple pencils and seem to love it.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by kmill »

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

I have mine specifically for LiquidText[1] to read papers and textbooks.

[1] http://liquidtext.net/

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by valine »

wil421 wrote: post #192
Larrikin wrote: post #187

I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

Have an iPad 3, I find a lot of apps to be close to unusable at this point. Safari is a huge offender and it's full of ui ticks when I open the app or webpage. It seems all my apps are struggling. It's very hard for me to justify a new iPad. I really feel apple could've gone with the OS X on an iPad approach and really taken the whole market. Instead they are slowly adding iOS to Mac OS.

I've found the frosted glass blur slows safari down significantly. There is an option to disable the frosted glass look in settings > general > accessibility > increase contrast > reduce transparency. My iPad Mini 2 runs much faster with this enabled.

Edit:

This only applies to the 4th generation iPad and up. Apparently the frosted glass look was never enabled for the third gen iPad.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by yabatopia »

mulletbum wrote: post #335
alasdair_ wrote: post #317

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I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.

I agree Google has a terrible track record with naming products or services - although not as bad as Microsoft - but you're exagerrating a bit.

The step from Nexus 6 tot Pixel isn't that difficult to understand (and you even forgot the Nexus 6P, the successor of the Nexus 6!). Car manufactures launch new models all the time, without much problems. If someone gets confused by such thing, maybe that person is better of with a feature phone.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

sushisource wrote: post #366
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #179

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One of the reasons why he did that was because Apple was dying. They didn't have money and resources to support many models, and they needed to focus and do one thing right. So it was the right decision. As much as I like simplicity, if you look around there are tons of cases like this around us, and that's not because these companies are idiots who don't understand simplicity but it's because their products have rea…

Wait, really? You and I being readers of Hacker News are probably in a better position than 90%+ of customers to understand the benefits of one iPad over another. If it's not clear to us... who is it clear to?

It's exactly because we're on HN we are not aware of this need. It's a big world out there.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

mturmon wrote: post #303
tptacek wrote: post #265

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iPad Pro: Take the 9.7" iPad and add: * Apple Pencil * Faster CPU, more memory, more display * UHD color gamut display (and automatic white balance adjustment) * Better cameras I think there are other differences, but those are the big ticket ones.

I'd argue that the #1 or #2 key addition that "Pro" gets you (the Pencil being the other #1 or #2) is the "Smart Connector" for the integrated keyboard ( http://www.apple.com/smart-keyboard/ ). The ability to add the keyboard and the pencil illustrates the distinction Apple is trying to make between the Pro and the vanilla 9.7 -- creation vs. consumption. After all these years, they are still persistently trying to p…

The list of things I absolutely can't do on an iPad is fairly small these days. (This is distinct from things that I would prefer to do on a Mac/PC, but there are things that I would prefer to do on the iPad, too.) I think Apple may need to do a better job of showing, well, more utilitarian tasks that can be done pretty easily on the iPad.

Having said that, I do wonder if one of the unspoken stumbling blocks is that even if an iPad is a great portable computer in many respects, it's only a portable computer. A lot of people "dock" their laptops to get work done. (Or to write comments on Hacker News when they should be getting work done.) I love traveling with my 9.7" iPad Pro and keyboard, but even if future releases of iOS address all the nitpicks I have with it, there are times I want to be sitting at a desk in front of a big monitor. I don't see that coming to iOS any time soon.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by nilkn »

Larrikin wrote: post #187

I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…

I pretty much see iPads as family devices these days. Sure, that's not to say they can't be fun to have as personal "I will be the only person using this" devices, but since the original iPad:

(1) phones have gotten a lot better (and optionally bigger);

(2) laptops have gotten a lot more portable.

If I had kids, I could easily justify a family iPad. But I don't, so the device just feels like an expensive, mostly redundant luxury item.

Another thing worth mentioning is that we now live in a world where a company like Nintendo is making a serious gaming-oriented tablet with proper controls. This is something I've been wanting Apple to embrace for years, and they never did. If the Switch takes off (and it seems like there's a good chance of that), it makes a lot more sense for me to invest in that than an iPad.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by siidooloo »

cgh wrote: post #379
joeblau wrote: post #251

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The main thing that comes to mind for me is the Apple Pencil.

Yes, exactly. The Apple Pencil is incredible, by the way. The experience is comparable in my mind to using the original iPhone for the first time. Apple should market the hell out of the 12.9" iPad Pro to artists.

Yes, Wacom must have realized this as the newest Cintiqs finally solved the biggest problem they always had: paralax.
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