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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by knd775 »

sgt wrote: post #232

I use my iPad 2 every day. I bought it in 2011, so it's basically 6 years old and battery is still in great quality. I disabled a few animations/transitions and such, and I run iOS 10. It's not as fast as it used to be (newer iOS not being optimized for slower iPads) but it's still perfectly usable for reading books on the Kindle app, some surfing etc. When I am not using it, I tend to put it in Airplane mode.

If it's on iOS 10, it's not an iPad 2.

Also, the iPad 2 I got rid of like 4 years ago was horribly slow and pretty much useless at that point.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by wietsehage »

kalleboo wrote: post #221
wietsehage wrote: post #202

Starts making a lot more sense when you try to forsee the future product lineup: # Was iPad Mini 2 (7.9) iPad Mini 4 (7.9) iPad Air 2 (9.7) iPad Pro (9.7) iPad Pro (12.9) MacBook Air (13) MacBook (12) MacBook Pro (13) MacBook Pro (15) # Becomes iPad (9.7) iPad Pro (10.5) iPad Pro (12.9) MacBook (12) MacBook Pro (13) MacBook Pro (15)

You're missing the iPad Mini 2 in "was", that was discontinued today

Fixed, thanks!

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by aroman »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

You've got it backwards. This update streamlines the product line, along the lines of what Steve Jobs did.

There are now 3 iPads: the iPad, the iPad Pro, and the iPad Mini. The differences are as clear as they ever have been for Mac lines.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by tptacek »

arihant wrote: post #268
tptacek wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, what? What's "Staingate"? My screen isn't glass? I'm confused. I took a (1 generation older) rMBP to the Apple Store a few months back to get a keyboard replaced. I had a stuck pixel or two (I'd dropped it about 30-40 times) and the guy at the store told me there was a screen coating issue (he pointed to the black side of the screen) and said I could get a free screen replacement if I wanted it. Is that "Staing…

If you have a 2015 rMBP, we have the same model. There is no additional glass on top of the LCD, which every unibody model always had. One can argue LCD itself is made of glass substrate, but that's about it and that's not what Apple meant by glass screen on unibody macs. Poke your screen lightly and poke screen of any other macbook. You'll see by distortion on the screen that you directly poked the LCD.

I've had every MBP (or equivalent) Apple has made going back to the Titanium Powerbook. I was worried after all the noise about the 2016-2017 rMBP (the new thin one). I bought the non-Touchbar version; it's the best Macbook I've ever owned. But then, I've said that about basically every Apple laptop I've bought.

I do not doubt "staingate" is a real thing. What I doubt is that it's a harbinger of declining quality. There have always been things like this on every Apple product. The first generation of Intel Macbooks had (frankly: gross) case discoloration problems so bad an aftermarket sprang up for products to cover the parts of the case your hands rest on.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by sidcool »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #143
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

I believe the cheaper, albeit slow performing Android phones are revolutionizing the developing countries. People who could never afford a shiny Apple phone and its ecosystem are thriving due to Android.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Yhippa »

zie wrote: post #126
gtirloni wrote: post #84

How can they justify the extra $130 for a cellular chip and antenna?

you also get GPS, which works regardless of cell connectivity, handy for Maps :)

Does Apple Maps support offline map downloads? If so this is a great selling point.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by tptacek »

somestag wrote: post #241
nkkollaw wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but he cut stuff like printers, cameras, and other crazy crap they used to make. Even when he was still alive they had different-sized iPods, iPads, and more. Computers have always come in different sizes: 13", 15", and 17". What is the difference between a 13" and a 15"? Does it make it harder to buy? Perhaps, but you wouldn't kill the 15" just so people don't get confused.

Multiple models are fine, so long as you have clear signaling. As you point out, it's not terribly hard for the consumer to tell the difference between 13", 15", etc. Usually it's not that easy, and tech releases are shockingly hard to understand, and in my opinion most of the ambiguities are pure laziness. Since the topic at hand is Apple, let's pick out some examples from their small'ish product line: * There's no…

My theory is that this is because they didn't want to release the SE, and that they are only lately coming to grips with the fact that consumer preference is inexorably leading them to a product line charted on two axes, not just one --- price sensitivity and size sensitivity.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by taeric »

dmix wrote: post #147
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

It's quite obvious the Pixel is the "flagship" Android Google phone. And Pixel C is the "flagship" Android tablet. The pixel is advertised everywhere as a Google phone. Who makes it doesn't really come up in their product communication much. And the 'flagship' label is literally in the title of the Pixel products on Amazon. And on the website it's called "Pixel, phone by Google". > People buy a low end Android phone…

It is also fairly obvious that the pixel will be abandoned in about 2 years max. Since it was previously obvious that the Nexus was their flagship.

It isn't as bad as it was 2 years ago, where the main google phone would get updates, but was nigh unusable with the latest operating system. I still fully expect my nexus 6 to be basically abandoned by them within a year or so now.

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