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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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> How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine. Yes, because I couldn't care less. I do care about my laptop, though. If anything because it's 1,500 or more.

The idea of researching something that you care about... annoys you?

Researching doesn't annoy me.

What annoy me are the people that are supposed to make researching easy (for their own good) but make it a lot harder than it should be.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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You should give the new MBP a try (the version without the touchbar, of course). It's the best laptop I've ever used by a long shot.

Can you explain your opinion? Sadly I am a jaded person who hears your words like yours and thinks "Fan Boy."

I have no interest in proving that I am not a "Fan Boy".

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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post #32

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You should give the new MBP a try (the version without the touchbar, of course). It's the best laptop I've ever used by a long shot.

Can you explain your opinion? Sadly I am a jaded person who hears your words like yours and thinks "Fan Boy."

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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Also there was reason why Steve Jobs was against all tablet sizes except one. At the time Apple was going after revolutionizing the education market and the 9.7" iPad1/2 fit the bill for that purpose exactly. Then came the iPad mini whose sole purpose was to increase business bottom-line… and then a few more models based on other focuses or potential uses. Meh. Moral of story: Do not destroy the initial momentum and…

What I find kind of funny is Windows has gone through this exact issue with their Windows Phone platform. The Lumia lineup started out okay with a flagship device (920) and mid to high range device (820) a mid-range device (620) and a low end device (520) and a nice photographer device (1020). Things started getting really blurry with things like 925, 930, 635, 730 (can't remember them all) and suddenly a lower numbe…

that's just marketing nightmare.

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>> developers making mistakes and publishing incompatible updates If Apple thinks your device is old enough to end support (and Apple's pretty good at pushing updates for old devices for quite a while) why would devs keep trying to support you (when the app probably only cost $1-2 and 5 years have passed).

Considering that the app store allows device and os specific versions to coexist, there's no reason that requires a dev to break an old game. When it happens, it's typically because the dev made an error and added a feature but incorrectly claimed it was compatible with older ios or device versions.

>> the app store allows device and os specific versions to coexist

It does? How does this work (I'm an iOS dev but been out of it for a little while so genuinely curious)?

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Sure, but he cut stuff like printers, cameras, and other crazy crap they used to make. Even when he was still alive they had different-sized iPods, iPads, and more. Computers have always come in different sizes: 13", 15", and 17". What is the difference between a 13" and a 15"? Does it make it harder to buy? Perhaps, but you wouldn't kill the 15" just so people don't get confused.

>> Sure, but he cut stuff like printers, cameras, and other crazy crap they used to make. Dunno if there are other fogeys like me who remember the days going back to the Imagewriters, Stylewriters and Laserwriters -- those were fantastic printers in the pre-USB era where third party printer pickings were quite slim for Apple users. In the late 80s, you could even get a third party scanner in the shape ink cartridge c…

There's a picture of me as a teen on my outbound "laptop" struggling to get one hooked up somewhere. That roller-bar mouse thing though, that's what stands out :)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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This is a nice upgrade, but my iPad2 is still going strong for what I need.

(If I could get an iPad with pencil support for $329 or even $429, that might be a different story. Looks like I'll wait another year.)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Recently dropped by the local Apple store here. I was in the market for a laptop. They had about 4 different Macbook variants. Plus some older Macbook Pro models with HDD. Others with non-retina screens. A few years ago, it was pretty simple: you bought the Macbook Pro for serious work, Macbook Air for portability. Now it's just confusing. Like Dell or Lenovo.

I worked out the iPad choices.

Options is a of mix connectivity & size:

iPad Pro (12.9") - 3 Colours x 5 Options (15)

iPad Pro (9.7") - 4 Colours x 6 Options (24)

iPad - 3 Colours x 4 Options (12)

iPad 4 Mini - 3 Colours x 2 Options (6)

That's 57 variants, clearly designed by a bean counter judging by the deliberate storage choices (i.e. no 64gb options across the whole line). 32GB seems totally pointless to me unless you are only using it for email & web browsing. Why is the mini 4 - a device that wouldn't appear to appeal to "power users" only available in 128gb? Why would anyone purchase a 12.9" iPad Pro with 32GB of storage?

The iPad line is all over the place - I had re-write the above as I got confused by what base options are available. What's even more baffling is that they all come with regular USB cables which means I can't plug any of them into my new Macbook Pro.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

Nothing compares to an iPad as a PDF reading device. If you work in fields like electronics engineering, which require quickly going through lots of datasheets (some hundreds of pages long), it is simply the best device for the job.

(BTW, I recommend Readdle Documents for reading PDF because of its unbelievable speed, which matters a lot when your documents are 1200 pages long)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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This is what happens when they don't have a "product" guy running the company anymore. Steve Jobs was brilliant at coming up with new products. Every since he left all we have gotten is the Apple Watch, which one can argue he probably had a hand in. Their only option now is to start creating variations of existing product lines to keep them "fresh".

> Steve Jobs was brilliant at coming up with new products By my count, Jobs shepherded the following hit products (I'm giving the Apple ][ to Woz): - Macintosh (1984) - iPod (2001) - iPhone (2007) - iPad (2010) I think you're exaggerating how often Apple rolled out new product lines under Jobs. You could even argue that the iPod and iPhone overshadow the other two substantially in terms of cultural impact. > Their on…

When Jobs came back to Apple he supposedly canned hundreds of different products and got them to focus again. While he was around, that's how things remained; each product had their own place. As time goes on since his departure, the clutter is starting to come back and the lines are starting to blur. Whats the difference between the new Macbook and the Macbook Air? The iPad 9.6 vs the iPad Pro 9.6? Apple Watch Gen 1 vs Gen 2 vs Series 1 vs Series 2?
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