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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by srssays »

komali2 wrote: post #457
nkkollaw wrote: post #452

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> How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine. Yes, because I couldn't care less. I do care about my laptop, though. If anything because it's 1,500 or more.

So, since you care, doing research to get the right one doesn't seem unreasonable at all to me. I put in a solid hour of research at least before buying a new pair of boots. It took me many hours over many days to choose a camera. Took me weeks to build my PC. Each of those products I put in an amount of research that's at least somehow correlated with the price I paid for them (boots -> 100$ -> camera 600$ -> PC $13…

They are running a business. Presumably they want people to buy things. Making potential customers do research because the product line is opaque is just throwing away good leads.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by g051051 »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #71
g051051 wrote: post #20

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Mine's not a children's toy, but it's almost useless now. Once they stop updating iOS for a device, it's pretty much game over. Many apps have stopped working due to the developers making mistakes and publishing incompatible updates. Just about the only app I can still use is NetFlix.

>> developers making mistakes and publishing incompatible updates If Apple thinks your device is old enough to end support (and Apple's pretty good at pushing updates for old devices for quite a while) why would devs keep trying to support you (when the app probably only cost $1-2 and 5 years have passed).

Considering that the app store allows device and os specific versions to coexist, there's no reason that requires a dev to break an old game. When it happens, it's typically because the dev made an error and added a feature but incorrectly claimed it was compatible with older ios or device versions.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by anaclet0 »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #143
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by g051051 »

rimliu wrote: post #47
g051051 wrote: post #20

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Mine's not a children's toy, but it's almost useless now. Once they stop updating iOS for a device, it's pretty much game over. Many apps have stopped working due to the developers making mistakes and publishing incompatible updates. Just about the only app I can still use is NetFlix.

But it takes about five years to stop releasing iOS updates for particular device.

The 1st generation iPad was released April 2010. The last version of iOS for that hardware was iOS 5.1.1, released May 2012. That's just barely 2 years later, not 5.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by traviscj »

cylinder714 wrote: post #311
squeaky-clean wrote: post #149

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For people on Hacker News, sure. But try asking your grandma what the flagship Android phone is and what the flagship Apple phone is. It is much more confusing for the average person than you'd think. > I don't really see why it matters if your mom thinks she has a "Samsung" or an "LG". Because when people ask if she has an Android she says "No." > There's more to Android phones than the base OS. I know, that's my co…

In fairness, if you asked your grandma what the flagship Ford or Chevrolet car was, she wouldn't know, either.

From [1], the Ford Taurus [2]? Weird...

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Flagship_vehicles

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Taurus_(sixth_generation)

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by gurkendoktor »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #179
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

One of the reasons why he did that was because Apple was dying. They didn't have money and resources to support many models, and they needed to focus and do one thing right. So it was the right decision. As much as I like simplicity, if you look around there are tons of cases like this around us, and that's not because these companies are idiots who don't understand simplicity but it's because their products have rea…

> They didn't have money and resources to support many models

They have money now, but do they have the resources? Apple's software quality has arguably taken a nosedive, and they've started missing deadlines even for hardware.

Assuming a kind time traveler gave 1997 Apple a few billion US$; could Apple simply have bought its way out of its problems?

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by defined »

Terretta wrote: post #146
icantdrive55 wrote: post #50

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What apps do you use to program? I'm too lasy to look it up. Sad--I know. I wouldn't mind front-end programing on my iPad 2, but found it tedious years ago. I remember thinking this will not work--for real work.

Working Copy + Textastic

Great apps. I use them all the time.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by vacri »

nkkollaw wrote: post #239
squeaky-clean wrote: post #222

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> "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. It's also a smaller phone, just like how the Plus is larger and costs more, but isn't any faster. The name or price of SE doesn't imply lower end at all, they've even removed the number so you don't know which one it's comparable to. I agree it's not awful, just that it's slippi…

I don't know, I tried switching to PCs for a while, I couldn't get how their naming works. I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/

> I mean, where do you even begin to try to figure this out: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/

... by reading the subtitles?

I like lenovo laptops and I agree that they have too many model lines, but apart from a couple of subtitles, most of them are descriptive of that particular line.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by vacri »

nkkollaw wrote: post #452
michaelmrose wrote: post #438

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You make this sound bizarrely difficult given a defined price range you could probably pick a decent laptop based on amazon reviews in 15 minutes and be pretty happy with it. If you want to play real pc games get a desktop or a console unless you have a lot of money to spend. How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine.

> How do you deal with the rest of the consumer universe? I'm betting you get along just fine. Yes, because I couldn't care less. I do care about my laptop, though. If anything because it's 1,500 or more.

The idea of researching something that you care about... annoys you?

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by vacri »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #149
dmix wrote: post #147

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It's quite obvious the Pixel is the "flagship" Android Google phone. And Pixel C is the "flagship" Android tablet. The pixel is advertised everywhere as a Google phone. Who makes it doesn't really come up in their product communication much. And the 'flagship' label is literally in the title of the Pixel products on Amazon. And on the website it's called "Pixel, phone by Google". > People buy a low end Android phone…

For people on Hacker News, sure. But try asking your grandma what the flagship Android phone is and what the flagship Apple phone is. It is much more confusing for the average person than you'd think. > I don't really see why it matters if your mom thinks she has a "Samsung" or an "LG". Because when people ask if she has an Android she says "No." > There's more to Android phones than the base OS. I know, that's my co…

> But try asking your grandma what the flagship Android phone is and what the flagship Apple phone is

Most people would just say 'iphone', not knowing which model is the 'flagship'.

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