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Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.
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#412There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.
I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…
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The Pro screen is a little different too. The iPad Pro doubles the motion detection to 240hz when there is any kind of touching going on, which reduces the latency when drawing. My understanding is that this significantly adds to the cost of the hardware, and is why we don't have Pencil support across the entire line. I thought that the Pencil does not use a radio a la the Wacom, and is purely Bluetooth, but I can't…
Wacom technology powers the pen through induction, other vendors don't do this. The Apple Pencil and whatever Microsoft calls the pen that the Surface Pro uses require a battery.
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What are you talking about? There is now 4 http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
The Pro is one line, there are just two screen sizes. The 9.7" Pro has the same processor as the larger pro and has compatibility with the pencil. The new 9.7" non-pro has the lower end chip and no pencil.
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Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1. Naming schemes are terrible.
I've never heard such a confusion when it comes to TV purchases. Life is imperfect and changing products require a little research. You can't just go to the store and buy the best socks either; if you want the best you got to do research. Thems the breaks.
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#416I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.
All day long, i have several tablets actually, but my main tablet is a custom rom android tab s2 on tmobile. I have tmuxinator, tasker, tasker ssh, automagic, web alert xp, csploit, hackers keyboard, (linode,aws,google) service mgmt apps, openconnect, ms rdp, hackers keyboard, AIDA ide, pagerduty, and so much more I regularly manage linux/windows systems from anywhere on my tablet. I approve code changes and make cod…
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#417Re: iPad 9.7‑inch
#418There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.
I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…
Bigger numbers are still better. "Plus" means the big screen. S is off year version, incremental upgrade on the previous number. Agreed SE is the odd one out, but don't think it's too hard for consumers to figure out "its the cheap one".
Because new iPhone models are introduced only once a year to great global fanfare, I bet a lot of consumers actually know the meaning of the version conventions very well.
Agreed on iPad and Mac versions, though, those are a mess.
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#419I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the ellipt…
Every once in a while when you reboot, you'll have to wait for Windows to install its updates. Sleep/hibernate are more finicky than an iPad, which sips so little power in idle that it never has to hibernate. Desktop mode is absolutely terrible to use with fingers. Tablet mode has missing functionality so you'll have to switch to desktop mode periodically. Battery life is worse, even though Windows makes use of hibernate. There's bugs that plague the Surface line that don't get addressed for a long time. I had to manually disable wake from sleep using keyboard/mouse on my SP1 otherwise it would stay in a powered mode and never properly hibernate. A normal user can't do that.
Lack of apps is a real thing. There's no official YouTube app. You can use the desktop site, but every time you try to pull up the controls, the player interprets it as a touch and plays/pauses the video. On the Netflix app, if you try to drag the slider, there's no feedback from the slider so you can't see if you've actually dragged it or not until you let go. Makes for some very imprecise scrubbing.
I could go on and on, but an iPad is simply better for media consumption if you don't need a specific Windows tool.
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#420It sure feels like Apple is getting desperate. Not sure what's going on. I know this is a single data point but just a few days we went to our local Apple store. It wasn't quite empty but it was nowhere near as busy as it was, say, a year ago. No buzz. At my personal level, we have not updated our iPads and iPods for a number of years. Don't plan to. I still have a 4S. I have disliked everything Apple has done since…
You're complaining about an almost 6 year old smartphone being sluggish with iOS updates. And then complaining because Apple is requiring you to update your app. Ironically, the reason that discoverability in the App Store is so bad is because it's filled with abandonware apps where the devs don't update to fit with the newer versions of iOS. I think that's what my dad used to call chutzpah.
Thinner? Please.
Resolution? C'mon.
Faster? OK, but to browse Facebook (which is what most people do with them) the prior phones were good enough.
Larger? OK, sure.
Battery life? I've never had a problem with this.
Games? OK, sure, we have more CPU power so a greater segment of our society can waste their lives clicking things on a screen. If you don't have kids you won't have the experience of attending family events and parties where a bunch of kids are completely removed from the social gathering while they have their faces in those screens. Believe me when I tell you it's a terrible thing. We were making educational apps for kids. At least we tried.
Storage? Meh
Photos? The resolution arms race is a joke. Anyone who knows anything about imaging knows increasing sensor resolution isn't enough to actually capture higher resolution images.
Look, most people use these things for photos, SMS, email, GPS and Facebook. Web browsing is a painful experience, even on an iPad. I have serious doubts --based on our analytics from various businesses-- that people are using phones to shop online. When we run AdWords campaigns we EXCLUDE mobile devices because we have proven to ourselves that they don't convert at all. Desktops do.
I had great SMS and email going back to Blackberry devices. They also had rudimentary web browsing (not good).
A stand-alone GPS or an in-vehicle nav system has always been better than using an iPhone. They are impossible to operate while driving. It's almost like the integrated printer + scanner + fax machines where none of the three are any good.
Smart phones were hot many years ago. People were grabbing-up apps and filling their screens with icons. Go as anyone just how many apps they use and how many new apps they look for on a monthly basis. Most people I know haven't installed a new app in years.
The interesting Jedi trick Apple benefited from for many years was the mindless frenzy to constantly upgrade for no good reason. I know people who have burned thousands of dollars in upgrades and ended-up with nothing to really show for it.
There are those who need to chase after shiny things and those who do not.
What's interesting here is that on the computer side of the world nobody would think twice about using a four to six year old computer. Up until very recently my main workstation on my desk was a 2009 machine running Windows Vista 64 bit. Three monitors, lots of memory, half a dozen drives. Ran Solidworks and other engineering software just fine. We upgraded to newer hardware and software because some software vendors started to drop Vista support. Other than that, no issues whatsoever.
Why is it that one can't expect a $600 phone to last six or more years? Apple has ruined a previously perfectly good iPhone 4S thought every-more-taxing updates that deliver virtually no additional benefits. In other words, they are breaking their older devices through updates in order to force people to upgrade.
As far as our educational apps for kids. There was and there isn't anything whatsoever wrong with them. Not a thing. In fact, our analytics show that kids are still using the apps every day all over the world. Imagine if Microsoft invalidated apps this way, people would go insane. How is it that this is OK on iPhones? Not sure I see it.
Why do we have to be forced to upgrade apps when users are happy and there are no problems at all? And, what's the benefit of upgrading anyway? The work to upgrade a dozen apps is non-trivial. In exchange you get no improvement in visibility or discoverability. We are back to the same place: You have to burn more cash than the other guy to become visible. Worst yet, depending on the niche you get to burn $3.00 to make $2.95. The motivation to devote time, money and effort to upgrade evaporates very quickly when that happens. It stops being a business and it becomes a liability.
But, wait, I forgot, all corporations are evil except for Apple.
> App Store is so bad is because it's filled with abandonware apps
No, the App Store is bad because the App Store is bad. It has been a disaster for years. It only serves Apple. The most fundamental issue is that of ownership. If you think you own your users and actually have a "business" in the App Store just wait until Apple decides to remove your apps from the App Store. An App Store business can be a flash in the pan and you have no way of knowing if you are going to wake up next Monday and still have a business. That has nothing whatsoever to do with abandonware.