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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by [deleted] »

nkkollaw wrote: post #169
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

It's still not that bad. It's always a version number (ex., 7), the following version they add an 'S' (ex., 7S), then the following version they will increase the version number (ex., 8). "Plus" means bigger, and you can regognize it because it's bigger, "SE" means lower-end, you can recognize it because it costs a lot less. I currently own a Huawei Y6II, which I read is a clone of the P9. No idea what it means, what…

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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by soperj »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #143
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

At the end of the day, Google doesn't care if people don't know they're using Android, so long as they're using the google services.

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Post by jrockway »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #214
klodolph wrote: post #162

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I'm not super knowledgeable about this so take this with a grain of salt. Some of this might be wrong. Good modern touch screens, like the iPhone/iPad/Macbook trackpad are capacitive touch screens. An array of sensors emit a changing electric field which is affected by the dielectric constant of nearby materials, and fingers have a different dielectric constant from air. Capacitive sensors cannot detect pressure (alt…

The Pro screen is a little different too. The iPad Pro doubles the motion detection to 240hz when there is any kind of touching going on, which reduces the latency when drawing. My understanding is that this significantly adds to the cost of the hardware, and is why we don't have Pencil support across the entire line. I thought that the Pencil does not use a radio a la the Wacom, and is purely Bluetooth, but I can't…

Wacom technology powers the pen through induction, other vendors don't do this. The Apple Pencil and whatever Microsoft calls the pen that the Surface Pro uses require a battery.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by memco »

jfoster wrote: post #291
jacobolus wrote: post #213

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The important difference is that “pro” supports the stylus, while “non-pro” does not.

Is that really the biggest difference? Sure, a stylus might be important, but they could just make all models work with the stylus.

There are several differences, which any given person might find more appealing.

Pro offers:

- Better processing power

- Better sound (more speakers)

- Better resolution cameras (about +4MP on both)

- Thinner (1.4 mm)

- Lighter (.04 lbs)

- Higher storage capacity

- Pencil & Keyboard (the ipad smart KB, bluetooth should work on both) support

And possibly the non-pro does not have P3 wide color gamut support?

If I was buying one for a family member I would buy the iPad, not the pro unless I specifically knew they needed one of these features—of which, the keyboard and pencil support seem most probable, cameras probably second.

Personally, I have the pro with the keyboard and pencil, and I love it for most day to day use. I have not yet tried to code on it, but I am dubious that I will ever be able to rely on it as my primary/only computing device. However, for meetings, classes or speaking engagements I find it highly versatile and fits a niche my laptop never would.

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Post by mulletbum »

alasdair_ wrote: post #317
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

I have a pixel. Before that, I had a nexus 6. Both say "Google" on them and both were purchased because they were the canonical versions of Android without any of the crapware other vendors add.

Which has a better proc and camera? I'll guess Nexus 6 because 6 comes after what must be the Pixel 1.

Naming schemes are terrible.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by nik736 »

sidcool wrote: post #276
squeaky-clean wrote: post #143

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I always thought that was the iDevice's strength. With Android, you have nothing actually made by Google but by OEMs, with different names and branding that don't give any real information. Which phone is "the android"? My mom doesn't think she has an android phone, she thinks she has an LG and that Android is a different thing. People buy a low end Android phone and hate the entire ecosystem because the phone perfor…

I believe the cheaper, albeit slow performing Android phones are revolutionizing the developing countries. People who could never afford a shiny Apple phone and its ecosystem are thriving due to Android.

Well, I am from Germany and am using a Mac but I dislike the new iPhones and Android (for example MIUI) is not worse than iOS, the only downside is the missing iCloud integration.

I had many iPhone devices in the past (ranging from the first to the 5, which was my last) and with the iPhone 6 it went downhill in my opinion. This is where I switched to Xiaomi and never looked back.

So it's not only in developing countries, for example I prefer my Xiaomi Mi5 Pro over any iPhone device that is out there.

They have their flagship every year and so it's pretty easy so know what to pick. The Tablet part is lacking but the MiPad 3 is in the works.

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Post by karlshea »

kevindqc wrote: post #322
aroman wrote: post #274

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You've got it backwards. This update streamlines the product line, along the lines of what Steve Jobs did. There are now 3 iPads: the iPad, the iPad Pro, and the iPad Mini. The differences are as clear as they ever have been for Mac lines.

What are you talking about? There is now 4 http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

The Pro is one line, there are just two screen sizes. The 9.7" Pro has the same processor as the larger pro and has compatibility with the pencil. The new 9.7" non-pro has the lower end chip and no pencil.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by theGimp »

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

I use mine all the time to read books / articles... and to kill time.

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Post by DoodleBuggy »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

The "iPad Pro" is the same iPad as it always was, the "Pro" is marketing.

A member of my family was hustled into buying an iPad "Pro" from a sales rep who convinced them it can do everything and more, yet they can't perform simple file management and related email tasks on it, so they still use a Windows PC that cost 1/2 the price of the $800 iPad Pro.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by coldtea »

paulcole wrote: post #100
coldtea wrote: post #76

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Depends on the line of work and the hobbies of most people one knows. Given my line of work and hobbies, the iPads are very appreciated tools. For the average soccer mom or Joe Sixpack, not so much. At best they'd surf the web and social media on them.

>At best they'd surf the web and social media on them. This is a major part of many people's lives. I'm sure even the proletariat you sneer at appreciate their iPads.

>I'm sure even the proletariat you sneer at appreciate their iPads.

Who said otherwise?

I wrote that for some people's use cases they are capable to be used and appreciated as tools -- which is what the parent contested.

They can be totally fine and appreciated web browsing machines for the average person, but that's a different thing that being tools (with the "productive"/"pro" element inherent in the term).

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