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Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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It's better to live in the east since you don't have to look at the sun on your commute.

Nice reasoning. (Though only applicable to 'newer' cities, or at least more recent expansion of cities).

Also only to people that commute at rush hour +/- and into/out of the city.

Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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Actually in most of the major US cities, the south side is bad. For example, SE DC, south side Chicago, south-central LA

I don't know about DC and LA(though I wonder if both have developed recently enough that the effect would be negated) but in Chicago the souh side is the furthest east (due to lake michigan) and the suburbs to the east of the city aren't exactly wealthy either.

South Los Angeles is a poor region of greater Los Angeles. There is more crime and unrest there. One historical example: it was the location of the LA Riot back in '92(?).

South LA is about 20 minutes from the ocean, by car. I would generalize that any part of Los Angeles that's further than 15 minutes from the ocean or the mountains (there are several mountain ranges to choose from) is relatively poor.

Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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Actually in most of the major US cities, the south side is bad. For example, SE DC, south side Chicago, south-central LA

Interesting. Applies to Boston too - to the north are the rapidly gentrifying yuppie suburbs of Cambridge, Somerville and Medford, while to the south are the more depressed areas of Roxbury, Dorchester and Mattapan.

Same for the non-San Jose parts of Silicon Valley: Palo Alto and Mountain View are ritzier than neighboring Sunnyvale and Santa Clara. I don't know enough about San Jose itself to say, nor about San Francisco. In SF, though, it seems like many of the ritzier areas (Pac Heights, Marina, Marin) are to the north.

NYC is a notable exception: Harlem and the Bronx are in the north, while SoHo, Tribeca, Greenwich Village, etc. are all in the south.

Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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post #14

Short and to the point, lacking any kind of fluff. Very refreshing. Almost every other article of this kind is so incredibly long that it feels like a game of "spot the explanation".

Thanks. (I wrote it!)

Ooh! I have a question. Do you know what the situation is in Seattle? Is it so odd, with water separating cities and neighborhoods, impacting traffic, and a corporate empire in the eastern part, that it's hard to make out? Would it have been easier to see the situation you describe decades ago?

Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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In Australia, where the prevailing winds are also westerlies, the opposite is true. i.e. the east of most cities is more prestigious than the west.

Except in WA, where many prestigious suburbs are in the West (Peppermint Grove, etc), and Adelaide where they are distributed around the center (North Adelaide to the North, Unley Park & Springfield to the South, as well as some in the East). I think that in Australian cities factors other than wind direction have a larger influence.

Adelaide is a big exception, since it is bordered on the west by the ocean, and the east by the hills. All the prestigious suburbs are around the city, with the North and South regions having the worst places. The most prestigious places are to the south and east, then north, and lastly west.

Sydney, the further west you go, the worse it gets. The population center of Sydney is actually 10km west of the city. Pretty much all the nice suburbs are either East, or North.

Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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Actually in most of the major US cities, the south side is bad. For example, SE DC, south side Chicago, south-central LA

Interesting. Applies to Boston too - to the north are the rapidly gentrifying yuppie suburbs of Cambridge, Somerville and Medford, while to the south are the more depressed areas of Roxbury, Dorchester and Mattapan. Same for the non-San Jose parts of Silicon Valley: Palo Alto and Mountain View are ritzier than neighboring Sunnyvale and Santa Clara. I don't know enough about San Jose itself to say, nor about San Franc…

And New Jersey to the west

Re: Why are the east of cities usually poorer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. (I wrote it!)

Ooh! I have a question. Do you know what the situation is in Seattle? Is it so odd, with water separating cities and neighborhoods, impacting traffic, and a corporate empire in the eastern part, that it's hard to make out? Would it have been easier to see the situation you describe decades ago?

As a Brit-in-the-US, I don't know that much about the history of US city growth (sorry!). From a quick Google, it seems Seattle has a potted history of urban planning, with perhaps a greater focus on beautification/planning than many similar cities: http://www.seattle.gov/planningcommission/docs/Introduction%...
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