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Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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I still tip the normal amount when I get takeout from a restaurant that has tables.

Is this normal? I never tip for takeout..

I usually leave a couple of bucks, but definitely not 15%. That's for bussing the tables and being polite to my party.

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I wonder if this varies by region? I ride with uber quite a bit here in Los Angeles, and I have never once been asked for a tip. I wonder what makes it different?

You're definitely an outlier. In San Francisco, tips are sought more than 10% of my trips.

Sorry but your 10% number is just impossible to believe in San Francisco. I've ridden Uber multiple times weekly for years and managed a couple sales people who also used Uber under our business account (in aggregate several hundred rides) and I've never once heard of such a thing until just now reading this article.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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No Tipping is one of the main reasons I liked Uber; no cash, no pressure, you just get out of the car and walk away with everyone happy. I would rather pay more for each fare and have Uber aggressively prohibit tipping. I suspect many people feel the same way and if Uber doesn't get it under control, it could be the biggest challenge they face.

After I switched to Lyft in the wake of the Susan Fowler thing, I discovered that they give you the option to tip. It made me realize that the pain point of tipping is actually feeling pressured to tip the moment the service ends . With the Lyft app I can tip (or not) later on, and I almost always do. It's not tipping that I don't like; in fact I really like tipping. With their strict no-tipping policy, it turns out…

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Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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It's different because in restaurants and bars it is so well established and priced in, it's really just part of the price.

Then make it a part of the price!

This is the same US mentality where businesses are allowed to advertise the pre-tax price of a product. Essentially it's just a way for the seller to lie about their product price (yet the financial industry has free rein to force business to not itemize the CC fee).

Everything seems more expensive in Europe, but at least you're paying prices that already include VAT.

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> And by law, they cannot share the tip. That's absolutely not true.

You forced me to check my sources. Thank you. I cannot just trust my memory. Looks like the front of the house can pool their tips in many states in the USA indeed. But according to Nolo, they cannot pool with people who typically get no tips. "Only employees who regularly receive tips can be part of the pool. Employees can't be required to share their tips with employees who don't usually receive their own tips, lik…

Just because it is not legal to force servers to share some with the bar backs and the cooks does not mean it is not expected in most places. Not all social customs should be codified in law. Some flexibility in life is good.

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> your cancel reflects poorly on you in Uber's rating system This is simply not true. I just checked: My rating is 4.73. I've probably taken a few hundred rides with Uber. I assume they adjust ratings for bad experiences, especially if you're a regular rider. By the way: It's not that hard to get consistent 5 stars as a passenger. Be respectful of the driver and follow these steps: 1) Say something like "Hi, are you…

4.7 is low. 4.6 is where drivers get fired. At 4.5 a lot of drivers won't pick you up.

That's a broken rating system. Why would 4.7 (a 94% score) be middling percentile? And I thought school grade and work title inflation was bad...

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> I would be more than happy to pay even a little more if it meant not getting guilt tripped over a tip That does not sound very logical.

It's completely logical. If you value a silent car ride, or more significantly, if you value not being asked for money by someone who has you trapped in the back seat of their car and whom you are trusting to get you to your destination, then you would pay more up front for a ride free of hustle for a tip.

Is the back seat the de facto protocol? I always sat in the front. It somehow feels more friendly and personal. But in a taxi, I'll usually sit in the back.

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Indeed this problem goes away. A new one pops up though: mediocre service, such as having to ask many times for refilling the tap water bottle or get condiments, and struggling to get the waiter's attention in general.

I have not noticed any overall service problems in Korea, Japan, or China.

In fact, service in those countries is much better than in the US. I would even say that if there's a correlation between tipping and quality of service at the country level, is negative.

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You're not taking advantage of the driver. Uber is. It's the same thing with restaurants - you're letting yourself be guilted into subsidizing a corporation's business strategy, with the justification that it's either you that gets screwed, or their employees.

>subsidizing a corporation's business strategy This is called paying them, and occurs even in the absense of tips. Tips give people the second option of not subsidizing the corporation; were tips removed, everyone would be forced to subsidize equally. This is to the business' disadvantage only because some people are willing to pay more when it is in the form of a tip then the corporation could ask the rest of their…

Tipping is actually to nobody's advantage. It's inconvenient for the customer, sets incentives for the waiter that aren't always in line with what's best for the restaurant as a whole and introduce unpredictability for the wait staff.

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I really hate tipping culture in America. In Germany, servers are surprised if you give them anything more thana euro. I have friends who visit from non tipping cultures who ask "Why isn't it just included in the price!" I agree with the author. Tipping is out of hand. Charge more for food, clearly state it on the menu/check, remove the tip black on the receipt and pay people a decent wage!

I don't mind tipping in principle, but I really hate the payment terminals that are preconfigured with outrageous options, so it prompts you to pick 20%, 25%, 30%, "other", so you feel like a total sleaze giving a normal 10-15% tip. It's the worst when I'm picking up takeout from a restaurant that also has tables. Like, am I supposed to tip in this scenario? Do I have to go into "other" to tip less than 20% for being…

> Do I have to go into "other" to tip less than 20% for being handed a brown bag?

Yes, of course, you go into other and select 0%. You don't need to tip someone for handing you a bag, and prompting for a 20% tip is shameless.

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