If anyone is looking for alternatives: http://alternativeto.net/software/sandstorm-io/ . I think Cozy, Yunohost, Cloudron, arkOS are the closest alternatives (Bitnami is about 1-click images and DO/linode are about cloud servers). Would be great to hear about other alternatives...
The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
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Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#32Hi all, I'm not sure how responsive I'll be able to be on this thread since I'm in orientation today. :) But, here's the things I expect to be repeating a lot: - Sandstorm is still an independent company, under control of Jade and myself. - Sandstorm is "my baby" and I'm not going to stop working on it just because I have a day job. Yes, it will slow down a bit -- but on the bright side, we were previously spending t…
Hey Kenton, you replied previously (in another thread) that he will keep running Oasis since it's your baby. So, let's say Oasis goes down right now and right now you are in the middle of your orientation... does it mean that nobody will look into it until later tonight (that too if you have time) ? What is the agreement with Cloudflare?
Note that Oasis is extremely stable. We haven't had an incident requiring human response in weeks -- and the only kind of issue we regularly had before that is now automated.
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#33Hi all, I'm not sure how responsive I'll be able to be on this thread since I'm in orientation today. :) But, here's the things I expect to be repeating a lot: - Sandstorm is still an independent company, under control of Jade and myself. - Sandstorm is "my baby" and I'm not going to stop working on it just because I have a day job. Yes, it will slow down a bit -- but on the bright side, we were previously spending t…
I guess I'm confused by the carefully chosen wording of this post. Did Cloudflare acquire Sandstorm? Was this an acqui-hire? Appreciate the clarity and I understand if there are elements that can't be shared publicly.
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#34Hi all, I'm not sure how responsive I'll be able to be on this thread since I'm in orientation today. :) But, here's the things I expect to be repeating a lot: - Sandstorm is still an independent company, under control of Jade and myself. - Sandstorm is "my baby" and I'm not going to stop working on it just because I have a day job. Yes, it will slow down a bit -- but on the bright side, we were previously spending t…
I've often found that my motivation to work on something decreases if I'm being paid to do it. Side projects are often much more fun and energizing than your day job. Hope you feel the same!
Even while working full-time on Sandstorm, on weekends I'd work on "things I want to code" rather than "things I need to code".
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#35Best of luck, kenton! If anyone is looking for alternatives: http://alternativeto.net/software/sandstorm-io/ . I think Cozy, Yunohost, Cloudron, arkOS are the closest alternatives (Bitnami is about 1-click images and DO/linode are about cloud servers). Would be great to hear about other alternatives...
Given that, and given that it's FOSS, then as long as the community is still interested in the project, the project should keep seeing development, regardless of the amount of time the original developers can put in. Even if that means a LibreOffice- or MariaDB-like fork.
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've often found that my motivation to work on something decreases if I'm being paid to do it. Side projects are often much more fun and energizing than your day job. Hope you feel the same!
Back when I worked at Google, my favorite weekend activity honestly was working on open source side projects. I'm a workaholic like that. Even while working full-time on Sandstorm, on weekends I'd work on "things I want to code" rather than "things I need to code".
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Isn't everything in our life "for now", given a sufficiently long now?) What kind of hostile commercial interest there might be, especially when the technology is protected by open-source licenses? If there were a non-hostile commercial interest, akin to Citus in Postgres, won't it be a win for all?
That such independence is - historically at least - usually the opposite. There are very few examples of where post acquisition such independence turned out to be the real deal.
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
That such independence is - historically at least - usually the opposite. There are very few examples of where post acquisition such independence turned out to be the real deal.
As far as I can tell, Sandstorm did not get acquired or acquihired - Kenton, Jade, and others (?) as individuals all accepted job offers from Cloudflare.
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess I'm confused by the carefully chosen wording of this post. Did Cloudflare acquire Sandstorm? Was this an acqui-hire? Appreciate the clarity and I understand if there are elements that can't be shared publicly.
If you're running a founder-team-only private company without any real assets, the company only really "exists" for as long as the founders can be considered to be its employees. So, if another company comes along and makes an offer to the people to hire them as individual employees—not a company, not even a gelled team, just individual offers—then the company-that-was just sort of ceases to exist, because it now has…
This matters because Sandstorm Development Group, Inc. (and not Cloudflare!) has the ability to grant proprietary licenses to the Sandstorm codebase.
Re: The Sandstorm Team Is Joining Cloudflare
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
That such independence is - historically at least - usually the opposite. There are very few examples of where post acquisition such independence turned out to be the real deal.
As far as I can tell, Sandstorm did not get acquired or acquihired - Kenton, Jade, and others (?) as individuals all accepted job offers from Cloudflare.