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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by remarkEon »

vinay427 wrote: post #380
ng12 wrote: post #351

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> A lot of "illegal immigrants" are an absolutely essential part of the economy, performing jobs like picking oranges in the Florida heat/humidity, doing roofing work, washing dishes, etc This is what kind of gets me though. Supporting illegal immigration is supporting indentured servitude. I've especially noticed it in NYC, it boils down to "I'll support your right to stay here as long as I can still find a $6 burri…

That's not entirely fair. If the immigrant feels that they have a better life as a low-wage worker in the US (keep in mind many are escaping violent or oppressive surroundings) then I won't be the judge of that by imposing artificial limits on livelihood. We can at least acknowledge that we are improving the lives of those immigrants for whom this is the case.

Can we? There doesn't appear to be a limiting principle in your argument.

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Post by nl »

ajmurmann wrote: post #460
nl wrote: post #450

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Obviously this is a joke. In case it isn't: the war that would follow an attempted Calexit might be slightly detrimental to startups in the Bay Area.

Why would there be a war? Large parts of the country seem very resentful towards California. Seems like both sides would be happier without each other. Edit: I obviously don't think a Calexit will happen but I'm just curious why you think it would result in a war.

A number of reasons:

The legality of California seceding is dubious[1]

There is a history in the US of attempted secession leading to war

Around the world attempts are at secession are often associated with violence

There's probably more, but I don't think any of these are particularly controversial.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_the_United_States...

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by remarkEon »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #330
mindcrime wrote: post #313

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It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies. That sounds like a grossly inaccurate generalization to me. A lot of "illegal immigrants" are an absolutely essential part of the economy, performing jobs like picking oranges in the Florida heat/humidity, doing roofing work, washing dishes, etc. Interview farmers in the south and ask…

This is already happening: California Farmers Backed Trump, but Now Fear Losing Field Workers https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/california-farmers-bac... I don't know why its so uncomfortable for conservatives to admit that illegals play a role in our economy[1]. If they didn't they wouldn't be here as the market would choose against them. This is why Democrats have been fighting for amnesty programs for long tim…

>I don't know why its so uncomfortable for conservatives to admit that illegals play a role in our economy[1].

I guess I'd call myself a conservative (I think) and I don't get uncomfortable at all admitting that, but that doesn't mean that the fact they do "play a role" is right or correct. You're implying something that I think is quite dangerous: that the US economy can't function unless we allow people to break our laws to be here. That sounds like a caste system by another name. I genuinely don't understand arguments from the left that attempt to minimize the importance of State Sovereignty in the context of these debates. "Native borns" used to be able to find that work...until we started importing illegal immigrants willing to work for fractions of the cost.

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Post by arihant »

devoply wrote: post #695
arihant wrote: post #376

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Those restrictions do not apply in the business district, AFAIK. There is a lot of encapsulation that Dubai provides international businesses from their local restrictions.

Don't ever want to work in a place where you can be thrown into jail for months for getting pregnant out of wedlock.

But you do want to work in a place where you get shot based on color of skin? You can see why making blanket statements based on a piece of news you read from another continent is not the right way to judge an entire country.

Besides, my recommendation was for conducting YC interviews, not exactly living there. A 2-day YC tour conducting interviews in Dubai would enable founders from 3 continents to participate more heavily.

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Post by lloydde »

samfisher83 wrote: post #601
acchow wrote: post #537

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How will Vancouver improve its weather? California has a powerful draw...

SF weather isn't that great. It cold and foggy. Socal has much better weather, but it isn't silicon valley.

To each their own. SoCal is too hot for many people. Your comment might seem to imply that SF weather is silcon valley weather. 30 minutes south the weather is consistently warmer though leave the coast a little ways and the tempature can also dip more at night.

My family is from Victoria/Vancoucer and likes it cooler to enjoy active outdoor activities like running, biking and hiking. For this SF and Oakland weather is wonderful.

I also work a few blocks from the ferry building and wear shorts near year round, though that isn't saying much spending all my time in a temperature controlled office.

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Post by krisdol »

degenerate wrote: post #286
komali2 wrote: post #253

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As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

You might want to take a step outside the academic setting every once in a while. Chat with a cop, ambulance driver, or immigration officer from a sanctuary city if you really want to "get" it. It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

It's the police in my sanctuary city that want the "sanctuary" status. Our police should be free to prioritize using their limited resources on pursuing important threats to the safety of our community, and illegal immigration is just not the threat that flyover methlab-country is convinced it is. Our immigrants fearing using public services, fearing reporting crime to the police, that stuff hurts our city.

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Post by swsieber »

acchow wrote: post #649
NathanCH wrote: post #643

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Sunshine hours has more to do with the fact that the sun sets here at 4:00pm in the winter. More often than not it's sunny or cloudy with sunny breaks.

I'm 95% sure that's not how the earth's orbit works. Sure, further from the equator makes your days shorter in the winter, but they're longer during the summer. It's awash.

It is a wash, but judging from the comments the heavy rains/gloom come in the winter... so it could be a real explaination.

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curiousfiddler wrote: post #448

If you don't provide opportunity and a good civil environment to brilliant/enterprising people, they will find a way elsewhere. And once Vancouver or any other city starts working for them, Silicon Valley will lose its exclusivity. The thing to note here is that this response from YC is not a political one, but a response that came out of market demand; it is pretty significant if it works out.

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Post by blhack »

joeguilmette wrote: post #378

A friend of mine runs a large, well known webdev agency in India and is attending a conference in Arizona in April. His friend was planning to come as well - he owns a US based business, has a US bank account, pays US taxes, has purchased airfare, hotel, and conference tickets. He was denied a US visa because "attending a conference is not a good enough reason". My friend with the agency who has a visa is concerned h…

What's the conference? (Arizona webdev here)
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