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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by ng12 »

mindcrime wrote: post #313
degenerate wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to take a step outside the academic setting every once in a while. Chat with a cop, ambulance driver, or immigration officer from a sanctuary city if you really want to "get" it. It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies. That sounds like a grossly inaccurate generalization to me. A lot of "illegal immigrants" are an absolutely essential part of the economy, performing jobs like picking oranges in the Florida heat/humidity, doing roofing work, washing dishes, etc. Interview farmers in the south and ask…

> A lot of "illegal immigrants" are an absolutely essential part of the economy, performing jobs like picking oranges in the Florida heat/humidity, doing roofing work, washing dishes, etc

This is what kind of gets me though. Supporting illegal immigration is supporting indentured servitude. I've especially noticed it in NYC, it boils down to "I'll support your right to stay here as long as I can still find a $6 burrito and a cheap nanny".

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by jimmyk »

trcollinson wrote: post #309
degenerate wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to take a step outside the academic setting every once in a while. Chat with a cop, ambulance driver, or immigration officer from a sanctuary city if you really want to "get" it. It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

You make an interesting appeal. I am not sure what you are trying to prove by saying that the poster will "get" it if they just talk to cops, ambulance drivers, and immigration officers. I would assume that you are trying to say they will find that immigrants commit crime (the original poster is speaking to a cop), they get hurt more often (the original poster is speaking to an ambulance driver), and they, now I am r…

>These will all be true regardless of the immigrants status and background.

Are you seriously suggesting that immigrants of all backgrounds are equally likely to be beneficial to this country?

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Post by ucha »

crikli wrote: post #308
komali2 wrote: post #253

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As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

The move from calling illegal aliens to illegal immigrants (or undocumented workers, or whatever) creates so much confusion. I don't know a single person, and I know a good number of Trump voters, who is opposed to legal immigration. What many people, myself included, are opposed to is the illegal part. Yet I consistently see this stance twisted to mean opposition to all immigration. This conflation is patently ridic…

You don't know a single Trump voter that's opposed to legal immigration from countries that in majority muslim?

Trump outlawed legal visa holders from Iran from entering the US when he signed the first immigration executive order. I don't think Trump voters were against that.

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Post by kbenson »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #252
kbenson wrote: post #193

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So, is the problem that they are forcing abortions, or that they have a social policy about childbearing? If it's about the abortions, apparently there's two types of action taken[1]. If it's in an urban area, they apparently either charge a fee or don't assign a household register to the child (not sure what that means), but if it's rural they do apparently force abortions. If you're okay with the social policy, it…

> If it's in an urban area, they apparently either charge a fee or don't assign a household register to the child (not sure what that means) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou_system

Ah, thanks. I actually wasn't aware mobility was restricted like that. It's a little mind-boggling that China inadvertently emulated the national immigration problems of other countries with internal immigration[1], but at least it appears they are trying to fix it[2].

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou_system#Effect_on_rural_w...

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_in_China#Hukou_refor...

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by [deleted] »

crikli wrote: post #308
komali2 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

The move from calling illegal aliens to illegal immigrants (or undocumented workers, or whatever) creates so much confusion. I don't know a single person, and I know a good number of Trump voters, who is opposed to legal immigration. What many people, myself included, are opposed to is the illegal part. Yet I consistently see this stance twisted to mean opposition to all immigration. This conflation is patently ridic…

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Post by aanm1988 »

wpietri wrote: post #131
refurb wrote: post #43

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If the US's new shiny fascist regime keeps progressing at this pace...the best thing countries like China could do right now is heavily fund things such as foreign PhD students. Wait, so you're saying everyone is leaving fascist USA, but China will be the beneficiary of that?

> Wait, so you're saying everyone is leaving fascist USA, but China will be the beneficiary of that? In recent years, the US has turned noticeably anti-science, anti-immigrant, anti-elite, and anti-government-support-of-almost-everything, including education, health care, the arts, science, and infrastructure. Whereas China has been energetic about pursuing global leadership in a variety of areas, and they're not shy…

> why wouldn't more talent pick China

Because China is governed by an authoritarian regime guilty of a wide variety of human rights violations.

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Post by tptacek »

sama wrote: post #111
badcede wrote: post #80

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> "He's not saying Altman supports Trump" "continues to give every sign of being in fact a quiet supporter of the administration" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13824917

I can't believe I have to say this given everything I've written on the subject (here is the first thing: http://blog.samaltman.com/trump ) , but I don't support Trump in any way. My point in the parent-linked article is just that Trump beat us using our own playbook, and shame on us if we don't notice that and adjust for next time.

What do you want people who have a problem with what you're doing to say? That we feel bad for you, because you don't mean to be communicating the things you're communicating? Do I believe you want to support Trump? No, I do not.

I don't want to recap the whole sad thread from last night on this thread too. I took the time to reply to you there, and to explain more fully what my issue is. Just like I'm sure you don't want to be doing things to help the Trump administration, I'm also sure you don't mean to beg me to repeat a whole bunch of stuff I already wrote about this.

None of this conversation belongs on this thread. Rather than feed it, we should just ask the moderators to detach and bury it.

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Post by neptunespear »

Pxtl wrote: post #255
clamprecht wrote: post #4

Wow. We often wonder how the Bay Area would be unseated as startup capital of the world. Maybe it'll be the US's immigration problem.

It would be delicious and terrible irony if Vancouver took over the role of startup capital, since it is the only place with a more unaffordable housing market than the SF bay.

$600 CAD/month for a bedroom in a house that's close to frequent transit and in a low-crime area isn't hard to find if you don't have your heart set on living right in downtown Vancouver. I am not going to pay $2200/month to live in gangland-torn East Menlo Park.

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Post by zouhair »

degenerate wrote: post #286
komali2 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

You might want to take a step outside the academic setting every once in a while. Chat with a cop, ambulance driver, or immigration officer from a sanctuary city if you really want to "get" it. It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

It's mostly the highly rich that are paying little to no taxes that are sucking the system dry.

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by [deleted] »

mehaveaccount wrote: post #214
clamprecht wrote: post #4

Wow. We often wonder how the Bay Area would be unseated as startup capital of the world. Maybe it'll be the US's immigration problem.

Calexit would allow California to bring in anyone they want though, and SF wouldn't have to worry about the US immigration policy screwing up it's tech scene. I'm looking forward to the Calexit proposition vote.

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