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YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by toyg »

EternalData wrote: post #237

It's oddly ominous reading about America's rise on the back of textile patents taken from England and Europe, then poaching of German physics talent and scientific talent from across the world. Germany was, by far, the pre-eminent power in theoretical physics at the turn of the 20th century, with Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck & Born about to be at the peak of their powers. Then the country decided to turn on intellect…

It's not an "old saying", it's the work of philosopher Giambattista Vico, a contemporary of Enlightenment. http://www.iep.utm.edu/vico/

Re: YC will hold interviews in Vancouver for founders who can’t get US visas

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Post by hackerboos »

rocky1138 wrote: post #123
ddebernardy wrote: post #118

In light of recent events [0], there's a non-zero chance that some founders out there would rather avoid going to the US at all - if only to protest with their wallet. It might be more sensible to open a second incubator in the EU. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin, Barcelona, there are plenty of options. (London is a good choice on paper too but pray tell what'll happen after Brexit.) [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/new…

Why not Waterloo? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/kitchener-waterloo...

Agreed. Come to Canada. We have a sane immigration system and we don't have right-wing parties breathing down our necks to shut it down.

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EternalData wrote: post #237

It's oddly ominous reading about America's rise on the back of textile patents taken from England and Europe, then poaching of German physics talent and scientific talent from across the world. Germany was, by far, the pre-eminent power in theoretical physics at the turn of the 20th century, with Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck & Born about to be at the peak of their powers. Then the country decided to turn on intellect…

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some-guy wrote: post #289
komali2 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

I agree with you 100%, but people who complain about immigration would argue that they're taking away the opportunities for Americans for the same education / positions. Heck, that's what they say about undocumented migrant workers in agriculture. But seeing them in positions in the "intellectual elite" is even more threatening to them because such positions are seen as a position of power.

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Post by sctb »

ythn wrote: post #270
aaron-lebo wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany waged two world wars over 20 years and tens of millions of people died because of that. Germany, even at its scientific height was racist and nationalist. Hitler didn't come to power in the 30s without generations of Germans being the foundation. The US is very far from that. I don't understand the massive overreaction. The United States in the 60s was a place where there were sundown towns that blacks dared…

Take a look at your leader. He is figuratively Hitler and rapidly implementing full blown fascism. It wouldn't surprise me if Muslims are being hauled away by the trainload to secret labor camps before his term is done.

We've asked you before—this account and previous ones—to please comment civilly and substantively or not at all. We have to ban this account if you continue to violate the guidelines this way.

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Post by thebokehwokeh2 »

degenerate wrote: post #286
komali2 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

You might want to take a step outside the academic setting every once in a while. Chat with a cop, ambulance driver, or immigration officer from a sanctuary city if you really want to "get" it. It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

> It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

So let's therefore demonize the majority smart diligent legitimate immigrants by lumping them in with the less than stellar ones!

That's the sentiment that is persisting with this trumpkin mess of epic proportions.

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Post by crikli »

komali2 wrote: post #253
EternalData wrote: post #237

It's oddly ominous reading about America's rise on the back of textile patents taken from England and Europe, then poaching of German physics talent and scientific talent from across the world. Germany was, by far, the pre-eminent power in theoretical physics at the turn of the 20th century, with Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck & Born about to be at the peak of their powers. Then the country decided to turn on intellect…

As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

The move from calling illegal aliens to illegal immigrants (or undocumented workers, or whatever) creates so much confusion.

I don't know a single person, and I know a good number of Trump voters, who is opposed to legal immigration. What many people, myself included, are opposed to is the illegal part.

Yet I consistently see this stance twisted to mean opposition to all immigration. This conflation is patently ridiculous but it makes for a nice straw man.

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Post by trcollinson »

degenerate wrote: post #286
komali2 wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Texan it boggled my mind to hear people complain about immigration. Walk into UT, A&M, UH engineering departments, half the students are Chinese or Russian or Indian. In the grad programs it's even more. That means their best talent is here , paying US taxes, contributing to US companies, making the US more powerful, all the while contributing almost nothing to their home countries. How is that a bad thing! I do…

You might want to take a step outside the academic setting every once in a while. Chat with a cop, ambulance driver, or immigration officer from a sanctuary city if you really want to "get" it. It's the illegal immigrants that suck the system dry, not the smart, diligent, legitimate ones working in academia and top companies.

You make an interesting appeal. I am not sure what you are trying to prove by saying that the poster will "get" it if they just talk to cops, ambulance drivers, and immigration officers. I would assume that you are trying to say they will find that immigrants commit crime (the original poster is speaking to a cop), they get hurt more often (the original poster is speaking to an ambulance driver), and they, now I am really stretching, deal with immigration officers more (the original poster is speaking to an immigration officer?). These will all be true regardless of the immigrants status and background. You haven't made any point at all.

The original poster said that immigrants pay taxes. Do you not agree? He said they contribute to US companies. Do you not agree? He said they make the US more powerful. Do you not agree? He said they don't contribute these same things to their home country. Do you not agree?

If you are going to make an argument, make one.

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Post by bdamm »

chillacy wrote: post #300
some-guy wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you 100%, but people who complain about immigration would argue that they're taking away the opportunities for Americans for the same education / positions. Heck, that's what they say about undocumented migrant workers in agriculture. But seeing them in positions in the "intellectual elite" is even more threatening to them because such positions are seen as a position of power.

I can confirm based on my Texan friend who voted for Trump that when he sees so many foreign students, he thinks of the potential American students that were "displaced" by them. I put displaced in quotes because it's not true that they could all be backfilled by americans (there are only so many people who graduate with an undergrad degree in EE or Physics each year).

It's a shame American primary education can't turn out enough educated Americans to fill the gap.
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