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Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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Joe Rogan had Dr Rhonda Patrick on and they spoke about Time restricted eating and she referenced some studies that if you keep your eating within a 10 hour window without doing anything else, you will lose weight and gain lean muscle mass. You will also improve long term memory recall. Facinating stuff, it's toward the end of the interview around 2:27. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxM_CLsvieE He also had Gary Tau…

yes, it's all very fascinating. there is starting to emerge a small, fringe group of people that believe calories-in-calories-out is a complete myth (or, more specifically, calories-out is a complete unknown given current understanding of metabolic science), which pretty much sends people into apoplectic fits of rage when they hear about it. even if it turns out to be a complete troll, it's great entertainment watchi…

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Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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I think it's a lot easier if you just flip that rule. Don't eat before 1pm or something like that. Basically, skip breakfast. Seems a lot easier, and the fasting interval should be about the same. Perhaps I'm biased because this is what I naturally do.

I've been doing this for a couple years now (only coffee/water before 12pm and no food after 7-8pm). It's a very effective method of calorie restriction for me. Only eating before 1pm would be absolute torture for me!

I usually eat lunch somewhere between 12:00-14:00 and then something between 18:00-20:00 in the evening.

That's all, been doing it for about 17 years now and it works great. Although I drink coffee throughout the day.

Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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I read from somewhere that even 16 hours is enough for the benefits of Intermittent fasting. Has anyone done studies with Buddhist monks in Vipassana tradition? They have rule not to eat after midday. Obviously many of them cheat different ways but if you can find the hardcorce monks and monasteries, you would have several thousands (possibly tens of thousands) subjects who have already been following the regime for…

16 hours of not eating is enough to put your body into ketosis. Perhaps it's related. I know there are health benefits to being in ketosis and eating a keto diet.

Do you have any citation about that?

For some reason, I suppose I read it somewhere, I though that for ketosis you need 36 hours.

Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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I have long believed, due entirely to anecdotal evidence, that restricting calories and eating less is one of the best ways to add years to your life. It seems that eating is inherently stressful for the body. Though obviously necessary, eating is something that we should strive to minimize. Any more than necessary, and the stress induced from digestion, and inflammatory molecules, damages the body and undermines our…

"It seems that eating is inherently stressful for the body."

I don't think that's the proper way to think about it.

It's more probably that what is going on is that fasting was unavoidable for our ancestors, and the body evolved for that to be a period where some kind of repair action was activated. Without fasting something doesn't happen.

That something is probably related to autophagy.

Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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16 hours of not eating is enough to put your body into ketosis. Perhaps it's related. I know there are health benefits to being in ketosis and eating a keto diet.

Do you have any citation about that? For some reason, I suppose I read it somewhere, I though that for ketosis you need 36 hours.

Just buy strips and check yourself. You might need much less time

Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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In case anyone's interested, I did a 10-week IF experiment that yielded mixed results.[1] [1] http://telegra.ph/My-experiment-with-IF-03-09

Thanks for sharing.

I've taken up 24 hour fasts once a week, and have seen a ton of benefits. From increased mental clarity, to weight loss, and body overall feels better.

I kicked it off because I'm big into taoism and it supports my practices.

You could try intermittently adding cold showers to support your weight loss. (The benefits of cold showers I've seen are a ton, and I'm not totally sold on that it is consistently good for everyone.)

Or you could attempt ketosis style diets on the days you are fasting. That would be as simple as when you are intermittently fasting, to eat fats only, instead of protein or grains.

Good luck!

Re: Eating less and more than needed on alternate days prolongs life (2006)

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Do you have any citation about that? For some reason, I suppose I read it somewhere, I though that for ketosis you need 36 hours.

Just buy strips and check yourself. You might need much less time

sorry, what are strips?
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