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They're not in Memphis. They're in San Francisco. My guess for why they're named Memphis Meats is ”[a founder's] family also owns a chain of 43 BBQ restaurants based out of Memphis, Tennessee"
I was curious about that too being from Memphis. Which BBQ chain?
You're from Memphis? It's so rare to run into another Memphian on HN.
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So to me this makes it even lesser of a problem namely all we have to do is fix the legal system and stop them from lobbying aggressively instead of most of the world population all of a sudden changing its diet entirely.
Your solution here is laughable. A couple of points: 1. I mentioned that the current laws are lax for a reason. There really isn't much in the way of controls over animal agriculture other than things that might affect public health and safety. Getting all of these companies to play ball with the current legal environment will not get us anywhere near where we would need to be. 2. The idea that "all" we have to do is…
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I was curious about that too being from Memphis. Which BBQ chain?
Baby Jacks BBQ You're from Memphis? It's so rare to run into another Memphian on HN.
if they can make affordable plant based chicken that's as tasty and protein-packed as real chicken and veg beef that's as good as real beef, then I'm 100% in. the biggest problem with non-meat foods (for me) has always been with their macros. I can get 32g of protein with nearly zero fat or carbs from 4oz of chicken for less than $2 a serving. Last I checked, this was not possible with alternative food.
A big part of those 'macros' is farm subsidies. Meat is artificially cheap in the US. Kind of ridiculously so.
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Honestly, if all you do is just stop eating beef, you'll cut your footprint from meat by more than half. A serving of chicken takes about 20% of the resources of the same serving of beef. Lighter cuts of meat combined with the right spices are a gateway to lots of interesting dishes with less or even no meat.
You'll get roughly the same amount of meat from 1 cow as you will from 200 chickens. Worth considering if pounds of flesh per life is a factor in your decision.
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> No one is "going back to the farm" to raise their own cattle, which they slaughter themselves, for a steak. It also doesn't scale to the "buy cheap steaks and grill a steak for lunch every day" level that some people do. I'm sorry, but you are quite wrong. There are mobile slaughterhouses that cater to this exact market: A farmer raises a couple cows, the mobile butcher slaughters the animal and process the meat in…
> You need to meet some more rural friends to see other ways that people live. Your rural way of living does not scale to the number of people we currently have living on Earth. It also does not scale to meet some people's current consumption patterns, which is one of my points. > Especially warrior cultures ate a lot of meat. "Warrior culture" does not scale to 8 billion people. You can't use this as justification t…
Now you've decided to talk about what people should do.
That's an entirely different topic.
By the fact that you've moved the goalposts, I take it you acknowledge my point that eating animals is not: "one of those things that in 50 to 100 years people will look back on with bewilderment"?
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A big part of those 'macros' is farm subsidies. Meat is artificially cheap in the US. Kind of ridiculously so.
Can you quantify that at all? How much of a discount is there baked in due to subsidies?
http://www.peta.org/living/food/10-things-wish-everyone-knew...
His top-line number is that a $5 burger would cost $13 without various subsidies, funded by $38B or year in subsidies to the meat industry.
I also found claims that removing subsidies would eventually lower prices by allowing competition from countries without subsidies. But my guess is there's a limit to bottom price globally given current tech, regulations, tariffs, and land availability. And it's difficult to know where that is relative to subsidizes process in the US...
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Gardein Breakfast Patties[1][2] retail for $3 at my grocery store and regularly have $1-off in-store coupons. Even the macros are solid. Everything else I've tried from Gardein has been excellent as well, and this is far from the best stuff out there. [1] https://gardein.com/products/breakfast-patties/ [2] http://imgur.com/XUodQQv
I'd be willing to give this a try. Out of curiosity, what would you consider the best (or at least respectably high)?
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You'll get roughly the same amount of meat from 1 cow as you will from 200 chickens. Worth considering if pounds of flesh per life is a factor in your decision.
Grandparent is likely talking about environmental effect per amount of meat produced. Cows are much worse than chicken in that regard because of all the methane that they're farting out.
Anyone thinking of trading beef consumption for chicken for one ethical reason (environment) should really be aware of and consider all ethical implications first. I strongly believe people underestimate the harm chickens go through (beef cows are treated pretty well, unlike chickens), let alone understand the number of chickens they eat per year.
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Baby Jacks BBQ You're from Memphis? It's so rare to run into another Memphian on HN.
I'm about 10-20 minutes away from it right now. Ain't had Baby Jacks. Might have to try it. Far as Memphians, yeah there's just a handful of us that I've seen. Gonna have a Memphis HN get-together one day with all of us.