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Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by 69mlgsniperdad »

abandonliberty wrote: post #485

It's interesting to note that Julian Assange didn't demonstrate control of the wikileaks private key during his Reddit AMA 1 month ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5n58sm/i_am_julian_as... Considering the political situation unfolding in the US and who this leak weakens, there is some evidence that wikileaks is not in the hands of a neutral party. There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. Th…

Reddit.. The narrative has been violently pushed and pulled 1000 directions for a couple years now. I'm not sure exactly what you're suggesting, but are you saying someone is either mind controlling him, or effecting leverage over him to coerce him to become their tool? You do believe it was indeed him in his interview with Hannity a month ago, right?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by ExactoKnight »

AgentME wrote: post #570
dvcc wrote: post #5

Based on the overview alone (of course I can't read the entire report that fast!), this is exactly what I expect a spy agency would be doing -- if they were not then I would be disappointed. What exactly in the admittedly shortened list am I supposed to be upset about? It makes no distinction between US citizens and overseas parties. If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause…

I'm just disappointed with the phone industry for the current state of rampant insecurity.

Is it really that bad?! The FBI took Apple to court because it couldn't crack its iPhones...

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by ExactoKnight »

AgentME wrote: post #570
dvcc wrote: post #5

Based on the overview alone (of course I can't read the entire report that fast!), this is exactly what I expect a spy agency would be doing -- if they were not then I would be disappointed. What exactly in the admittedly shortened list am I supposed to be upset about? It makes no distinction between US citizens and overseas parties. If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause…

I'm just disappointed with the phone industry for the current state of rampant insecurity.

Is it really that bad?! The FBI took Apple to court because it couldn't crack its iPhones...

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by memmcgee »

jerkstate wrote: post #727
fastball wrote: post #689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say hypothetically that the Russian government has a Cyber Defense arm that has nearly the scope and capability as the US (the DNC/Hillary stuff seems to indicate this). Let's say this is true for many world powers (US, UK, China, and Russia for starters). However, it seems like Wikileaks, while claiming to be a neutral source that "just wants to make powerful people accountable", they only seem to be releasing…

> Let's say hypothetically that the Russian government has a Cyber Defense arm that has nearly the scope and capability as the US (the DNC/Hillary stuff seems to indicate this). Let's say this is true for many world powers (US, UK, China, and Russia for starters). Do we think that, though? We've heard a LOT about Russia's cyber capability lately and the consensus seems to be that they employ groups of criminal kids w…

> I should also make the point that the DNC/Hillary stuff is not a foregone conclusion that it was Russian. These leaks cast new light on the DNI's Grizzly Steppe paper where the NSA gave a 50/50 level of confidence that Russia was involved (but CIA and FBI said that it was greater than 50%).

Why would the CIA hack the DNC though? It certainly wasn't a smart strategic decision for the Democratic administration. Why would they hack the DNC and not the RNC?

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by ExactoKnight »

EternalData wrote: post #506

I applaud what seems like a coordinated attempt to outdo each other when it comes to extreme transparency. 1) Wikileaks revealing the CIA has undermined consumer goods with malware. (this looks like a bigger deal than the Snowden revelations on the NSA side). 2) Russian opposition leader Navalny revealing that former Russian President Medvedev has been accused of amassing a billion-dollar plus property empire, based…

Conspiracy as Governance. Assange wrote a paper predicting this 10 years ago as his vision, and it's clearly coming true: https://www.wired.com/2016/10/want-know-julian-assanges-endg...

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by 69mlgsniperdad »

Maybe someone can clear this one up. So from the Snowden leaks, we know the extent of the NSA toolkits and the requirements which need to be met to utilize them. Now we know what the CIA has to work with, which requires the same authorizations, however apparently they encounter less oversight/obstructions(irrelevant), and after Apple refused to unlock the San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone, we found out the FBI was playing some sort of politics, by claiming that justice might not be served without Apple's intervention, and proceeded to publicly shame the ethical position they took. So why on earth was Obama trying to force Apple's hand in that matter? Soon as Apple said no, the FBI somehow found the single magical person willing and able to defeat the privately enhanced security of the 5s the shooter carried? Makes no sense to me.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by c0nsume »

benkarst wrote: post #810

Does anyone have any comments about technical aspects of the documents released? Seeing how this is Hacker News and all...

Yeah, this to me is the wiki of an average tech startup. Lots of mundane stuff like how to use git, how to install wireshark. If you don't know how to install wireshark or how to use git maybe you shouldn't be in the fucking CIA trying to defend the country from foreign adversaries. Not because these things show proficiency in being a 'tech' person, but because one would expect a well funded intelligence agency to be far beyond the use of popular pc tools. While I'm sure there are some advanced researchers there, it makes me wonder where the pros work. The Chinese or Russians sure as shit are not sitting in a lab somewhere trying to install wireshark.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by stale2002 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #636
megablast wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is clear motive right now for undermining the CIA. I think this is irrelevant and distracts from the issue. You are trying to change the narrative. If this is true, this is incredibly bad, and the CIA should be discredited.

Why is it bad? Does anyone expect spies not to have spy tools? Espionage is their job, after all.

OK fine. But let's stop pretending.

The CIA has access to the search history and phone call log of everything single American, and is blatantly breaking the constitution, and every single one of them should be arrested and sent to jail, for breaking the US constitution.

It is "their job", but it is also illegal and they should be sent to jail for treason.

You are correct, though, that it is completely expected that they have spy tools that blatantly break our constitutional rights.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by whereisthegun »

dvcc wrote: post #5

Based on the overview alone (of course I can't read the entire report that fast!), this is exactly what I expect a spy agency would be doing -- if they were not then I would be disappointed. What exactly in the admittedly shortened list am I supposed to be upset about? It makes no distinction between US citizens and overseas parties. If these actions are being done domestically against US citizens, with no just cause…

The internet and all electronics have just become one big spying and manipulation device and this is further evidence of that. No person who values freedom wants anything like that. I don't want to sit at home knowing that someone can listen in and see and record every thing I do! I am so close to throwing all of these electronics devices in the bin.

You are right that a spy agency should be expected to try to find ways into all of these devices. You are of course wrong in trusting that the spy agency is acting in your best interests. They don't have any accountability as we cannot see what they are doing. Wikileaks is the only organisation trying to bring accountability to the unaccountable.

Re: CIA malware and hacking tools

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Post by stale2002 »

Daishiman wrote: post #634
tmccrmck wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some examples?

The insane, continued obsession over Hillary's emails and the phrasing of the social media accounts is definitely not congruent with the clear-headed logic and essays that Assange has written in the Wikileaks manifesto, "Cypherpunks", and others. The Wikileaks Twitter handle just used a Fox News video as evidence for something. You could say the man's gone insane, but the theory of these accounts and the WL org being…

What are you talking about. Julian absolutely hates Hillary, and for good reason. Hillary and the Obama administration hardcore went after him. Of course he hates them. So him being biased is completely expected.
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