UC proposes its first enrollment cap on out-of-state students

Post by Paul-ish » Tue, Mar 07, 2017, 4:45 AM UTC

flat6turbo wrote: post #61

vmarsy wrote: post #59

> Her own child was turned down by her top three UC choices two years ago, despite SAT scores and a grade point average above the 90th percentile. Her daughter ended up at a fourth UC campus. Why not simply follows Texas' Top 10% Rule [1] ? > The law guarantees Texas students who graduated in the top ten percent of their high school class automatic admission to all state-funded universities This top 10% rule, (in con…

because there's too many people in california to do that. there is a similar heuristic in place, but of course, the top 3 UC's is the same for everyone (berkeley, LA, SD) http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/freshman/califor...

Post by __derek__ » Tue, Mar 07, 2017, 5:00 AM UTC

stale2002 wrote: post #64

dvt wrote: post #56

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Mass accepting out-of-state students is most certainly not a solution, it's a band-aid (not to mention it basically screws California taxpayers). The solution would be to just increase state funding AND cap out-of-state admit rates. It's very hard for Berkeley and UCLA to stay competitive with Stanford and Caltech (and the Ivy League) when their private counterparts not only offer better financial aid for at-need low…

"it basically screws California taxpayers" It does literally the opposite. Out of state people are a net money gain, not a net money loss. The more out of state people you can, the more instate people you can afford to accept.

Post by mulmen » Tue, Mar 07, 2017, 5:21 AM UTC

dvt wrote: post #56

yaacov wrote: post #14

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That's because nonresident admissions don't reduce the absolute number of Californians the system can support! They pay much more in tuition than the UC spends on their education, and much of the remainder gets spent on in-state residents. In-state admissions have fallen at highly competitive schools like UCLA not because out-of-state students are taking up more of a set number of spots, but because the amount of in-…

Mass accepting out-of-state students is most certainly not a solution, it's a band-aid (not to mention it basically screws California taxpayers). The solution would be to just increase state funding AND cap out-of-state admit rates. It's very hard for Berkeley and UCLA to stay competitive with Stanford and Caltech (and the Ivy League) when their private counterparts not only offer better financial aid for at-need low…

Post by dvt » Tue, Mar 07, 2017, 5:40 AM UTC

stale2002 wrote: post #64

dvt wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mass accepting out-of-state students is most certainly not a solution, it's a band-aid (not to mention it basically screws California taxpayers). The solution would be to just increase state funding AND cap out-of-state admit rates. It's very hard for Berkeley and UCLA to stay competitive with Stanford and Caltech (and the Ivy League) when their private counterparts not only offer better financial aid for at-need low…

"it basically screws California taxpayers" It does literally the opposite. Out of state people are a net money gain, not a net money loss. The more out of state people you can, the more instate people you can afford to accept.

Post by saagarjha » Tue, Mar 07, 2017, 5:45 AM UTC

zvpxdlk wrote: post #60

Why not just accept the brightest students with the best resumes?