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Re: Wired's iPad edition arrives, converted from Flash by Adobe

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TBH, I think 5$/issue is a bit steep. In Canada I currently pay 40$/yr for my print subscription and I know that an American Print subscription is 20$/yr, so the price difference is pretty substantial. I will be keeping my print subscription until prices are more reasonable.

Did you see the video? This isn't just a PDF of the magazine, it's a 530 MB presentation with video and interactive 3D graphics. I would pay more than $5 for this.

Re: Wired's iPad edition arrives, converted from Flash by Adobe

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So we have: Translated from Flash to Objective-C by hand: OK Translated from Flash to Objective-C by computer program: Not OK The good news, I guess, is that Apple is apparently confirming that "originally written in Objective-C" doesn't mean "the first concrete representation of the program was in Objective-C", which means people are free to prototype an app in whatever language they want, as long as they totally re…

> Translated from Flash to Objective-C by computer program: Not OK Assuming you're referring to the CS5 feature, it converts Flash to byte-code, not Objective-C.

While it's true that CS5 converts Flash to bytecode, Apple's rejection of RunRev's proposal suggests that Flash programs would have been rejected even if CS5 had translated to Objective-C.

http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/revmobile-and-appl...

Re: Wired's iPad edition arrives, converted from Flash by Adobe

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post #7

TBH, I think 5$/issue is a bit steep. In Canada I currently pay 40$/yr for my print subscription and I know that an American Print subscription is 20$/yr, so the price difference is pretty substantial. I will be keeping my print subscription until prices are more reasonable.

It's only $10/year in the US if you snag it off Amazon. $5/issue is nuts especially considering there are no printing or mailing costs.

Re: Wired's iPad edition arrives, converted from Flash by Adobe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No we don't, we have: Rewritten in Objective-C: OK Translated from Flash to Objective-C by computer program: Not OK It's like the difference between hiring a translator and using Google translate or hiring a typist versus using speech recognition. [Edited for clarity: meant to change translated by hand to rewritten by intelligent human, and keep the second one the same].

I don't see how "Machine translation" is any different than "Translated from Flash to Objective-C by computer program".

It isn't, the change I made was from translated by human to rewritten by human, and the distinguishing bit of that change is human versus machine.

The parent was implying some kind of double standard where the "computing device" doing the change made a difference but shouldn't, and I was pointing out that the human isn't "mechanically translating", but "reinterpreting / rewriting". I just didn't write it out very clearly that the second one is the same. Will edit.

Re: Wired's iPad edition arrives, converted from Flash by Adobe

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post #7

TBH, I think 5$/issue is a bit steep. In Canada I currently pay 40$/yr for my print subscription and I know that an American Print subscription is 20$/yr, so the price difference is pretty substantial. I will be keeping my print subscription until prices are more reasonable.

I'd buy it if I'm getting on a plane. Other than that, I just read their website.

Re: Wired's iPad edition arrives, converted from Flash by Adobe

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I have a strange feeling we've been here before: Are Magazine apps going to be the new Flash website?

Ha... I definitely get what you mean. Others have compared these "rich site" apps to CD-ROM, another dis.

I think they are generally uninteresting, and not "the future," but could be an OK short-term product idea for legacy media companies. (But not business model)

Old-school publishing companies have lots customers who might not exercise the same effort in discovery that you and i do.

Let's compare to familiar territory: tech companies:

Shrinking technology paradigms (giant life cycle desktop OS's like Microsoft Windows, Sun's SPARC) can launch new products, and make money off of shrinking, but existing customers. That doesn't mean they're being realistic about how to survive the future. Or that these "short burst" products are a good use of their time. (Sun maybe spent too much time denying SPARC's disappearance. MS seems to be doing just fine with Windows 7.)

Coming back to magazine apps... it's a short-term blast kind of thinking. Sometimes those things work out great, and get you enough money to survive to the next era... sometime it doesn't. I won't buy 'em. But depending on what else is going on inside of their organization, I don't necessarily blame msm for trying it out.

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