$40K is low for entry level programming jobs in the tri-state area (NY/NJ/CT). If you have 2+ years of experience, you should definitely ask for more but I of course don't know your current situation. If you are having trouble getting hired, look at your experience so far and focus on being a "specialist" of some sort. For example, don't apply to any random programming job. Pick a couple of areas which could either i…
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#22You may want to specialize. Not many companies hire "Programmers". They mostly hire "$LANG Programmers" but that's fine because you can learn many values of $LANG. So if you want an ASP.NET, NodeJS, or C# job then learn ASP.NET, NodeJS, or C#. The trick is to specialize in something you're actually excited about, so that you can become proficient. 1. Learn ASP.NET (build projects, do free work, whatever). 2. Change y…
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#23I understand where you are coming from. Even though it sucks to get rejected, try to see these experiences in a positive light: at least you got some practice interviewing, got some more insight regarding what companies are looking for, etc. I'm _relatively_ newly grad too (graduated on Jan/2016) and I obviously don't have all that experience we see in job postings. So I try to learn some stuff on the side. The NodeJ…
I'm actually not "fresh" out of college. I graduated in May 2015. I did take an assessment for Amazon back then and failed it. I did get referrals recently to retry at Amazon, but I no longer get accepted. I also spoke to a Google recruiter and they won't let me interview unless I have at least 6 months of experience.
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#24Also: DO NOT WORK FOR A RETAIL COMPANY. I'm a front end dev and worked for half a miserable year as an "Associate Developer". The pay was horrible and I quit as soon as possible.
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#25$40K is low for entry level programming jobs in the tri-state area (NY/NJ/CT). If you have 2+ years of experience, you should definitely ask for more but I of course don't know your current situation. If you are having trouble getting hired, look at your experience so far and focus on being a "specialist" of some sort. For example, don't apply to any random programming job. Pick a couple of areas which could either i…
I definitely do not have even 1 year of experience. God, it's so hard being a specialist when you don't even know what you want as someone with barely any experience. I did NodeJS for two months for a contract.
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#26Also, consider applying to positions that aren't looking for software developers specifically to get your foot in the door. There are many technical positions that can involve software engineering, like QA, application support, IT, devops, helpdesk etc. A lot of these positions that need "bodies", but are good stepping stones for entry level positions.
+1 to networking, though user groups for a given technology (e.g. .Net user groups) might be better than "networking" events which can be a lot of false leads.
And on your resume (saw it looking at your comment history): * Include an introductory objective sentence or two at the beginning (I'm so-and-so interested in...seeking such kind of work). * You may want to have a skills section with bullets of your skills, a lot easier for recruiters and hiring managers to quickly read * Create multiple version of your resumes for different positions you apply for. E.g. Something that's more tailored for frontend and another tailored for backend. You may even just want a few versions that are organized differently to do some A/B testing. * Are you writing cover letters? I'm not sure how much weight they carry these days (I can't say I've seen any from candidates in a long time) but really anything that sets you apart won't hurt. * You may also want to create a public Github repo with representative samples of your work. * The mygoldanimals.com URL in your resume doesn't work, you may want to indicate that it's no longer maintained.
Good luck!
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#27You may want to use a recruiter (or several); they will get a commission from the company where they place you and can work on finding you a job at the same time you are looking on your own. However, they will not always be looking out for your best interest overall though, so make sure to hold fast on anything that is non-negotiable for you. Also, consider applying to positions that aren't looking for software devel…
I have been rejected from QA. The interviewer was not convinced that I would be interested enough, since most people don't go dev -> QA (I had a 2 month developer contract at a startup).
I have multiple versions of my resume. I actually paid a service called ResumeRaiders, where they wrote an objective. I've received lots of negative feedback from that.
I have a Github full of small projects (ASP.NET site, API, AngularJS, various JS programs, etc.), but I felt it did more harm leaving it on my resume.
mygoldanimals.com hosting is paid by the client. It was working last month. If you do a Google search, you should see it's an actual business. I'm not sure what's going on with that, especially since the shared host provider has been bad over the year. It's unfortunate that it's currently not working.
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#28> Hoboken > $1 billion Definitely jet.com I'd suggest removing that information in case your interviewer becomes aware of this thread Also 40k is really low even for a new grad. Look elsewhere. Also don't apply to new grad jobs (nor should you present yourself as a new grad even if you are).
Sorry, it's not Jet. The company was The Children's Place (I should've said right by Hoboken, but was trying not to out them). Jet is actually a much greater company, and I have previously interviewed with them.