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Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by astine »

chm wrote: post #634
phaed wrote: post #590

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I'm on a beast of a machine that I could only dream of when I was stuck inside the Apple ecosystem. Granted there were a few of annoyances I had to find workarounds for, but nothing unsurmountable, we are devs after all. There was a lot I had to relearn the-windows-way, old habits I had to drop, new ones I had to adopt. But with experience comes expertise, and you get used to the new way. I now have that handicapped…

I understand your point about having to give an honest shot at Windows - I bought a Win10 license some months ago. It's fine. Until I wanted Emacs. Until I wanted to uninstall software. Until I wanted to setup a VM in VirtualBox (set up a Win2k12 Server VM tonight, and it simply failed to boot 3 consecutive times, then booted up in a "repair" mode, and then failed to boot again, just to boot up again after the 5-6th…

I run Emacs on Windows just fine. Cygwin Emacs + Cygwin Xserver works pretty well. Ubuntu on Bash on Windows is better by some measures though. You might like that one.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by dragonwriter »

patrickg_zill wrote: post #540
ozmbie wrote: post #370

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Apple is a still computer company, because Phones ARE computers. For the majority of the population in developed countries, and almost all of the population of developing countries, smartphones are the only computer people have or need. I agree that Apple have shifted focus away from "making tools for people to create things and solve problems" towards consumption-oriented mobile devices. But those devices are still…

You're correct that phones are computers, however: Solidworks, AutoCAD, etc. don't run on phones Photoshop/Lightroom/Illustrator don't run on phones SPICE, VHDL, Verilog don't run on phones InDesign and other DTP programs don't run on phones Emacs/Vi don't run on phones There are a host of actually-useful programs that are completely unsuitable for run on phone-computers, that do run well on laptop-computers and desk…

> Solidworks, AutoCAD, etc. don't run on phones

"AutoCAD" is a brand that applies to a large number of different CAD-related programs, some of which are mobile apps.

> Photoshop/Lightroom/Illustrator don't run on phones

Both Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Photoshop Lightroom are in the Google Play Store for Android phones.

> SPICE, VHDL, Verilog don't run on phones

Well, I can find circuit design apps that support a subset of verilog, but this is basically right.

> Emacs/Vi don't run on phones

There are ports of both on the Android App Store, supporting phones.

> There are a host of actually-useful programs that are completely unsuitable for run on phone-computers, that do run well on laptop-computers and desktop-computers.

There may be applications that phones don't have the processing capacity for or that work best with certain I/O peripherals that phones aren't often used with, sure. But the array of classes apps that are completely unavailable for phones is smaller than you seem to think.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by vilmosi »

freehunter wrote: post #262
doczoidberg wrote: post #175

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that is not true. people use clearly more windows laptops in germany

People use more Windows laptops than Mac laptops everywhere . Apple's marketshare is like 25%.

Way lower than 25% actually.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by vilmosi »

lukealization wrote: post #134
diego_moita wrote: post #85

It is so funny to read these Apple vs. Windows discussions when you live outside of North America... The truth is that, for the rest of the world, "Apple platform" means only iOS, only the IPhone, nothing more. In Asia, Africa, Latin America and some parts of Europe, Macs and OSX are a rare species, most people spend years without even seeing a Mac computer "in the wild". They are used only for graphics editing and I…

I live in New Zealand (at last check, that was outside North America). I see Macs all the time.

Marketshare is similar to the US at around 20%

http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/new-zealan...

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Post by WildGreenLeave »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #656
pfranz wrote: post #600

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I never had a magsafe2 laptop. I love magsafe1. I have no idea why they went through with changing it.

Probably something to do with shaving a billion of a millimetre off the thickness of the MacBooks

Probably, but they could have changed the adapter so the cable left the connector sideways like in Magsafe1.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by jhasse »

pfranz wrote: post #600
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #508

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Try to keep MagSafe 2 connected in any circumstances other than flat and stable. Sitting on the couch or laying in bed no way, it constantly disconnects. Good riddance.

I never had a magsafe2 laptop. I love magsafe1. I have no idea why they went through with changing it.

So that you have to buy new chargers.

Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by kstenerud »

jmcdiesel wrote: post #17

I used to be hardcore windows guy... Then 10 years ago I got a mac. I never went back.. But what am I saving money for right now? To build a nice PC again. Mostly because of the exact reasons in the article. I have a fondness for apple... but they have definitely lost their way. First, they were a computer company driven by a man who loved computers ("first" here is the Jobs return era) ... then they became a Compute…

Good riddance to magsafe. I've had two laptops become unusable because the magsafe connection became flaky and wouldn't charge unless I fiddled with it until it rested just so (even contact cleaner wouldn't help). There was no hope of it lasting more than a few hours without constant tending by me to get the connection just right again. I've never in my life had any other computer that failed in that way.

Moving to USB-C was the right choice. Charge cable goes bad? Buy another one for $15.

Everything else is spot on. Apple quality is fast going downhill.

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Post by iNate2000 »

lokedhs wrote: post #666
ido wrote: post #625

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Statistically the average revenue per android user is lower than per iOS user. It's not a binary either/or. Source: have been a mobile developer for 6 years.

Is the average revenue per user a relevant number though? When it comes to choosing what platform to develop for, wouldn't total revenue be a more important number?

The difference between total revenue and average revenue per user is important, but I think the answer is still iOS.

http://bgr.com/2016/07/20/ios-vs-android-developers-profits-...

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Post by [deleted] »

lokedhs wrote: post #666
ido wrote: post #625

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Statistically the average revenue per android user is lower than per iOS user. It's not a binary either/or. Source: have been a mobile developer for 6 years.

Is the average revenue per user a relevant number though? When it comes to choosing what platform to develop for, wouldn't total revenue be a more important number?

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Re: Why I left Mac for Windows: Apple has given up

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Post by netzone »

herbst wrote: post #693
netzone wrote: post #673

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The only actual _windows_ problem of those you listed is that uninstalling software is a hassle. That said, it isn't a walk in the park on Mac either. Can't use Emacs on Windows? Use any other editor. Can't setup VM in VirtualBox? A VirtualBox (maybe) problem If you go on Windows expecting the same environment as OSX or whatever OS you're on, you're going to have a bad time. Booting up a fresh Debian install feels be…

> Can't use Emacs on Windows? Use any other editor. I dont understand what you are trying to say there.

My point was that not having Emacs in Windows is a non problem because the editor market is oversaturated. It's not like the Adobe suite where any other product is almost a downgrade, so running a system that can't run Adobe products would be a liability.

Not being able to run Emacs as a reason not to use Windows is like saying; Damn! PulseAudio doesn't work on Windows, guess I'm back to Ubuntu.

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