Steve Bannon has a thing for shipyards. Someone should tell him what the NOAA does for merchant shipping.
Worse forecasts -> more dangerous shipping -> more ships lost at sea -> more business for shipyards.
White House proposes steep budget cut to NOAA
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#42I had heard that Trump/Republican the plan to kill NASA's climate research, was actually going to be to shunt it over to NOAA. This might be the other shoe dropping - defund NOAA (especially the satellite division) so that they can't keep the climate research going.
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#43> according to a four-page budget memo obtained by The Washington Post. So somebody in the NOAA is leaking internal memos to the press. Is it so bad to cut funding to rebellious agencies? It could be a good way to catch leakers: Distribute to every agency head a memo mentioning upcoming budget cuts, and see which self-righteous agencies try to stir up trouble. Instruct the agency heads to make minor changes to the de…
"Is it so bad to cut funding to rebellious agencies?"
If the agency provides a vital service to the country, I'd say it is bad to punish the country by cutting their funding just because an employee in that agency leaked a document.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is one of those comments that sounds profound if you give it a cursory glance, but actually makes no sense whatsoever.
Oh come on, sure it makes sense. It means that you failed to communicate effectively. Or that communicating to them was not an effective strategy.
Or the person you are communicating to has a conflict of interest and has a strong incentive to feign ignorance. Usually referred to as being "corrupt" for short.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every single commercial airline flight in the US relies on NOAA forecasting. Without reliable forecasting I would suspect the airline industry would crumble under delays, wasted fuel, diversions, and overall customer dissatisfaction. This isn't to say a third party couldn't pick up the slack but then you have a very clear conflict of interest. If the airlines get to make their own forecast they can skimp on fuel and…
>airline flight in the US relies on NOAA forecasting Sure but is that what is actually going to be cut? You do realize that one common way that unelected bureaucrats defend their spending is to launder unpopular/dubious spending in very popular spending?
The satellite data division would lose almost a quarter of its funding. Satellite data is highly important in creating accurate forecasts. I imagine the target is climate change data, but climate change and weather forecasting start with the same sorts of raw data, so I don't think you can hit one without the other in this case.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you "know" the message is wrong but the messenger won't shut up about it, these things start to sound like a good idea.
If you spend too long trying to convince someone there's a problem, then you are the problem.
If I'm not mistaken than the vast majority globally is convinced of man made climate change being an issue. The holdouts primarily seem to be a subset of US Americans. There is disagreement on what a fair solution would look like but the vast majority agrees on the problem.
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#47Makes sense when the powers that be think climate change is made up, in fact maybe they think the climate is made up. Why fund an agency that spends money on something that does not exist?
They don't think that climate change is made up. They're just trying to stuff their piggy banks before the bill is presented.
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#48Of course they are. NOAA does nothing which panders to populist sentiment. NOAA can't put steel workers to work. NOAA is not the grit of honest American labor, or the power of military conquest, or the gold of a halcyon age. NOAA cannot Make America Great Again, but a new fleet of aircraft carriers can. So it goes. Tie a rock to a string and hang it outside your window to see which way the wind is blowing.
17 trillion in debt, time to cut back
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#49Next up: disbanding firefighters, parametics and police. Not to be outdone by shutting down the electric grid.
You joke but I know plenty of self professed libertarians who want nothing more than to see those very services privatized. I know someone who genuinely believes a privatized police force would be the end of police violence because "then we'd at least be able to fight back." Sadly this is actually how a lot of people think.
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#50The cuts are gonna kill a ton of jobs. Blue collar ones too. And some of the US competitive advantage. Science has been driving our economy for years. They are also proposing cutting funding for clean water in the Great Lakes region 97%. Largest source of fresh water in the world and we are gonna cut almost all of the funding?
They've also announced eliminating the budget to control Asian carp... billions and billions in economic activity are going to be lost, not to mention so much biological diversity in the Great Lakes. Just an absolute catastrophe.